90% of it is just misandrist bait, and its just an echochamber of misandry.

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[–] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I haven't noticed a prevalence of that there. Checking it just now I can't find a single example of misandry. Maybe you are just misreading the vibe.

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  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Speaking as a man: Stop white knighting my gender.

    We don't need your protection or worry.

    Women making jokes on our expense does not hurt us.

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    [–] 15 points 5 months ago (21 children)

    maybe post some examples of what you find distasteful, OP?

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 5 months ago (19 children)

     

    man vs bear gender war garbage

    and what man has been alive for centuries? you talking to nosferatu?

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    There's a distinct difference between hateful rhetoric and good natured blowing off a little steam, and the examples you give are very clearly in the latter category. I take no offense at these posts because I know that the sort of men they are talking about very much do exist, and I also know I'm not one of them. It's ok they didn't add an addendum remembering that other sorts of men exist; not everything has to be about me.

    Also, by taking offense at these posts, you are literally acting out the the second one right now. Got to appreciate the irony of it.

    Edit: I forgot to say, the "for centuries" bit is obviously referring to it being ingrained into our cultures.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    I don't see these as genuine misandry I see them as jokes used to cope with a shitty world state. I post a ton of memes with similar intent. I'm curious to see if you have examples of genuine blatantly anti men content that has zero intent of humor.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Is comedy illegal now? We can’t laugh about choosing the bear?

    You found two shitposts. Congrats. Thanks for ignoring the majority of the content that’s actually there.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    Don’t you see? Men are so HURT by the bear thing! You just have to choose the man! Come on da lil bear is so scawwy, how could you possibly choose that?

    Do you think it irks them so much because it’s true, and they can’t admit it? It’s like every time they bring it up it proves the point. Insane.

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    the actual essence of the community and the thoughts and ideas are reflected not in your posts but in your ideologies

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Let’s see you bring this energy to any of the multiple shitposting communities that are majority male.

    Let women have our spaces. It’s the only community that’s ours. Women are allowed to be upset about how men at large treat us, how they rape and beat us, how men laugh at our genitals, our hobbies, our passions.

    We’re allowed to talk about our lives.

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  • [+] [S] -9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    theres no mensstuff community, but I do call out sexist content when I see it, be it misogynistic or misandrist.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago

    Frankly, this reads in the same way as All Lives Matter arguments. The default for most online spaces is male. You went and found one of the only comms where that isn't the case and got offended that it didn't cater to you, then cherry picked a few shitposts/joke posts to support your misogynism.

    Also, there actually are communities for "men's stuff" like dullmensclub.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    That’s because the men’s stuff community is all of the other parts of the fediverse.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    the actual essence of the community and the thoughts and ideas are reflected not in your posts but in your ideologies

    lizlemonmegaeyeroll.gif

    Very impressive that you can divine the essence of a community, not reflected in posts, just by reading a bunch of posts and making assumptions about them. That's a neat trick.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Don’t you see that a gathering of women without male escorts is expressly forbidden on Lemmy?

    We can’t be trusted on our own apparently.

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  • Women, am I right?

    Every time ladies get together it's always "I'm tired of being treated like an object of sexual gratification! I am constantly barraged by unwelcome harassment whenever I'm alone in public! I deserve to be treated like an equal member of society regardless of my appearance or your feelings about it!" Blah blah blah.

    Calm down ladies, just because we continually elect to ignore you doesn't mean we didn't hear you the first time. Next you're gonna tell me you deserve to vote even after you get married to a man and take his name. Typical hysterical women.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago*

    that is a single user. block them.

    i have blocked that user because they do indeed endlessly post hateful stupid shit non-stop.

    in fact you might as well just block blahj entirely. their entire reason for existing is to spout hate rhetoric under the guise of identity politics. just like it is with .ml and the authoritarian Marxists.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I checked out their feed since I figured I must have missed a big burst of bad content, but I don't see anything misandrist. I see a few posts critical of certain men, but even that's the minority of content.

    Even going through comments I see only a healthy amount of misandry. I don't see any organizing of violence against all men, or even normalizing of it.

    If you're feeling triggered by the things you see in a space meant for an oppressed class to vent then I think you're just too sensitive.

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  • [+] [S] -25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    it is a class struggle, not a gendered one. I hope you guys realize that.

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    [–] 32 points 5 months ago

    Hey OP, just wanted to pop in to see how your attempt to garner support for your shitass take on an online space that isn’t meant for you was going.

    looks around

    Yup. Pretty much what I thought.

    leaves

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    But do I tag this user as "troll" or "misogynist"?

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    I'm not a woman and it's none of my business what happens on womanstuff so I blocked it.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Yeah talking about what we would pair with a sweater or talking about our Monday motivations or supporting DKP’s garden adventures is total misandry. You got us.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck yeah! I appreciate all the gardening support!! 💚

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    no, bigotry against an entire gender, aka Sexism.

    the space itself existing is great, a woman only community.

    But the discussions that go on there arent.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Have you seen Lemmy at large? The amount of misogyny that’s laid bare doesn’t bother you, but a couple of shitposts from women make you concerned?

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    it does.

    all types of bigotry bother me.

    please dont engage in whataboutism

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, I don’t play with men who won’t police other men, but will attack women for the “same” shit.

    Stay in your lane.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    If you don't identify as a woman, it doesn't matter whatever the fuck is going on in there because it clearly says it's not about you.
    Until they start brigading other communities I see no reason why men should even care, let alone actively engage.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    Seriously. I saw that it was a space for women, and since I'm not a woman I blocked the community so I don't accidentally comment in a community where I'm not wanted. If the ladies need a space to vent, there's nothing wrong with that.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    First let me start by saying that I don't think this is the case for this community because the "examples" of misandry OP shared are clearly not misandryc, but:

    If you don't identify as a woman, it doesn't matter whatever the fuck is going on in there because it clearly says it's not about you.

    That's a problematic logic, imagine a community of white supremacists saying "If you're not white it doesn't matter what we do here, because it's clearly not about you" and you'll understand why.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    You should chime in on the ASK thread I posted earlier today, I'd be curious to hear your opinion.

    https://lemmy.world/post/47159655

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Unless you're in the intended audience for the community, you should probably block it, so that it's kept out of your mind

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I came to say I never see anything from it but its possiblie I blocked it. I block communities where I don't really fit who is trying to hang out together. Basically I try to treat every community like its an in person club. If what it says on the sidebar would have me not going to it then I block it so im not peanut gallerying it to much. That being said I have not blocked like country specific ones because I kinda want to get the perspective but if I comment I try to put something to let them know im not from thier country or such.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This is an interesting take to me. I'll preface by saying that I browse 'All', so my feed is almost wholly uncurated, and you guys might browse a lot differently than I do.

    Still, why block a community just because it's not designed specifically for you? It doesn't hurt anyone to view their posts and womensstuff does have good content that provides perspective on their opinions and struggles. I feel like that's good information no matter your gender.

    That being said, I don't usually post in those communities, but I don't see the problem with it as long as it's respectful and considerate.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    oh its exactly because I browse all. Its just a form of curations. Again I treat it like an in person group. If a group was about women getting together to talk about womens things it kinda suggests its to do it without men. I would not be going to such a group so no reason to have it in my feed. The women in the community will likely mentions stuff from their group in other settings. Thats basically how it works in the real world. I may not go to the club but some girl I know may go or someone may know someone who does and anything interesting gets around. A lot depends on how the right side reads. If it sounds like its for a particular set of folks to get together and im not one of the particular set then I don't want to intrude.

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  • Can you link a few examples?

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  • [–] [M] 7 points 5 months ago

    Locking. Rule 1 - Sealioning!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Echo chambers be echo chambers.

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  • I won't defend the OP because he's surely just an embarrassing attention seeker, but in return I'll say that you can't really say that there isn't misandry out there, especially on the leftist side of Lemmy, just as you can't say that there isn't a black swan out there (i.e. the induction problem), and in fact there are a lot of misandric women, and you can't just rationalize it as a "valid reaction to centuries of oppression" because it's a genetic fallacy. (where someone is held responsible for something they were not involved in because they were born much later, just because they are a descendant of that group).

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    Louder for the back!

    Misandry isn’t the reverse of misogyny. There’s no anti-men power structures being kept in place by women, there isn’t women-dominated governments stripping men of their rights, there’s no systemic violence against men perpetuated by women in power.

    There are certainly individuals that hate men, but misandry simply doesn’t exist the same way misogyny does.

    Thank you for your comment.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (7 children)

    You've mistaken misogyny/misandry with patriarcy/matriarchy.

    Misandry is by definition the hatred of, distrust of, or prejudice against men, as misogyny is the same against women.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    You’ve mistaken institutional sexism with individual sexism.

    As I said previously, individuals can be misandrist.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    To be precise, misandry exists, but it doesn't have the same societal support that mysogyny does. Both exist, but one has a noticeable effect in the broader world where as the other mostly has effects only in limited spaces where the individual has enough control to override the default power imbalance.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago

    why would you expect it to be any different?

    most single gender spaces end up that way.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago

    Women are icky. Am I rite? 😎

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago

    Same thing with male only spaces. They wouldn't hang out there if they weren't sexist.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago

    Just remember that everyone on the internet is a robot trying to piss you off in order to siphon your vital essence

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