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[–] 159 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Qui-Gon: Credits will do fine. [while attempting a mind trick]

Watto: No, they won’t.

Qui-Gon: Credits WILL do fine.

Watto: No, they won’t.

Qui-Gon: [Walks down street to money exchanger] Trade me these credits for Hutt bucks [Does mind trick]

Money Exchanger: Okay!

[Qui-Gon returns to Watto]

Qui-Gon: Here's a pile of Hutt bucks. Sell me a functional hyperdrive.

Watto: Okay!

[Roll credits]

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    The thing with the Jedi mind trick is that only Jedi's think it works.

    Everyone else just see a scary lightsaber guy asking them to repeat a sentence and are more than happy to comply if it means they get left alone.

    There's a limit to how much you can pretend though.

    • Letting an old man and a kid drive through a checkpoint? Fine, someone else's problem.

    • Selling an obvious narc deathsticks? Yeah, maybe going home and rethinking your life is the right call here.

    • Handing over all your life savings for a bad deal? Uh, no actually.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

    "Yeah, sure, whatever you say, man. I just work here."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And stormtroopers are supposed to be very disciplined and resistant to bribery.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is it a bad deal though? Are credits worthless to money changers in this context?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I took it more like galactic credits are banned on Tatooine , and no trader who didn't want any trouble with the Hutts would be dealing with them. Taking them on would be a world of trouble, like fencing stolen goods

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  • Thanks for explaining it. I'm not well versed on Star Wars. Seems like a galatic credit would have huge value compared to a local currency and someone would take that risk. Like trying to use USD in Argentina last year, illegal but worth it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I could see your perception of it changing based on how you watched the movies. If your first time watching the movies was in numerical order, you might come away thinking the Jedi mind trick doesn't work very well. It's not really explained until episode 4. IIRC, it's shown two times in the prequels, once against Watto (which fails) and once against a rando drug dealer in a bar (which works). It later works against Bib Fortuna but not Jabba.

    The explanation of "works against the weak minded" doesn't come until you're several hours in. If the movies were produced in that order, it would almost come off like a cop out explanation.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Wait why do they need to mind trick a money exchanger? Isn’t it just their job to exchange money? You just need to hand them the credits. OK maybe you’ll get gouged on the exchange rate but it’s not like they were poor. Alternatively I’m sure there’s something of value on a fancy vessel that they could just sell.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Why not just trade the fancy vessel for a less fancy but functional vessel. I'm sure the queen could afford it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My boss would not appreciate me swapping a company car for a beat up prius. Imagine Mace Windu's scowl

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah... why the fuck didn't he do that? I mean the place he was in was hosting a giant ass pod racing championship with tons of visitors, are you expecting us to believe that no one would appreciate republic credits there?

    It would be like if you time traveled to 2001 and tried to spend USD with some drug dealer in some backwater country and they laughed in your face... are you kidding me? USD then and now (though it might be in decline) is often preferred to local currency.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Republic in ep 1 is about to get in a war with the Trade Federation over taxes. If a group of space traders think they can win a fight against the galactic government, then maybe the economy is poor and Republic credits aren't trusted.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Still gets to be a force ghost for some reason

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  • [–] 108 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Child endangerment is the Jedi way.

    That’s why they are given laser swords that can cut through anything at age six!

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    they are given laser swords

    You mean those kids didn't go through the Jedi ritual of constructing their own lightsabers? What has happened to our cherished traditions?!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    At least before the fall of the republic, it was apparently common for Jedi Padawans to be locked in a cave to face a trial against their deepest fear to get a Kyber Crystal to even make their lightsaber in the first place. If they failed to conquer their fear, they died.

    Edit: apparently they don’t die per se, but are meant to believe they will and also if they fail, they might be stuck there. It’s weird and still not ethical

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You want those younglings to be defenseless against the Jedi that kill them with their laser sword?

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    On a scale of 1 to 10, how much space-weed do you reckon Qui-Gon Jinn smokes in a given day?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Even Master Yoda doesn't have a space weed count that high!

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why is Qui-Gon replying with "made in mematic"

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  • [+] 29 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Yes, because the Hutts would be totally cool with a couple of Jedi rolling up to their gambling dens and blatantly cheating for several hours. Screwing over one random used car salesman on a single bet is much easier to get away with.

    Not to mention the whole "he could be the chosen one" angle, at which point freeing Anakin was just as important to Qui-Gon as getting off-planet.

    ...Me? Overthinking a silly meme? Noooo...

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Qui-Gon is gambling at much higher stakes, placing the fate of the entire future of the galaxy into the hands of that boy, who Yoda had strongly recommended against being trained. So it's not that Qui-Gon was against Obi-Wan wanting to gamble, he just wanted him to significantly up his game:-).

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Canonically the actual gamble was qui-gon vs Darth maul. If qui-gon had lived, the universe would have been fine. But he lost, so it was doomed.

    The force on star wars is weird, because if you're strong enough in the force things are basically fated.

    Anyway, that's the long reason why the background music during that fight is called "The Duel of Fates".

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Wouldn't that depend on your interpretation of The Prophecy, with someone (perhaps Anakin? perhaps Luke rather? perhaps Leia's 3rd son Anakin?) slated to "bring balance to the force"?

    Though again, was that Anakin who helped Palpatine overthrow a corrupt and dying democracy (never you mind what it got replaced with...)

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    Or was it rather his son Luke who then overthrew that, allowing the cycle of death and decay and authoritarianism and then revolution to restart? Or, throwing it back was it rather Anakin but for a different reason (more locally minded to concerns directly related to force-users) since he overturned the corrupt establishment not of the Old Republic but of the Jedi Order itself, which had perverted its original intention by allowing themselves to get suckered into helping the rich stay rich and sticking it to the poor i.e. "defending the status quo", ignoring things like slavery while stopping things like robbery of the existing oligarchy?

    Is "balance" a good thing? Although conversely, can anything in nature exist without it (bc of entropy or whatever)?

    (And above I was entirely ignoring here the ass whooping handed out by the Yuuzhan Vong, but yeah that still works too: by overthrowing the Empire Luke restored the Republic to the cycle of conquer or be conquered, i.e. "balanced" in that manner of being animals that exist within the constraints of the natural order rather than perched on top of it.)

    All of which is to say that while nothing is ever guaranteed in life, except the Force, Qui-Gon knew that the lad was somehow important, though for what... who could say.

    Maybe we here though can say that it wasn't Obi-Wan that wanted to "gamble", with the assurances of a force-assisted victory, but rather it was Qui-Gon who wanted to gamble for real?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I still hold that an Anakin did exactly what he was destined to do. At the end of the 3rd move he destroys the Jedi. A light side exploiting dogmatic order that had, at the time, near total monopoly on force sensitivity in the galaxy. At the end of the 6th movie, he kills palpatine and dies himself. Thus ending the reign of the sith. This leaves only Luke, who never completed his training to be a true Jedi and was not above force choking people and allowing worldly attachment to sway him but is also generally good aligned.

    No light, no dark, just folks. Perfectly balanced.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I wonder what Qui-Gon would think of that ending? Probably "it is the will of the force..." and so at least nominally approve.

    And then that leads me to wonder if knowing that, would he still have had the courage to do it - and die as a result, even though obviously becoming a force ghost?

    Now that is probably crossing the line into over-thinking it! 😄 (/s btw, bc there is obviously no such thing!)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    While that's all a good question and thought provoking... unfortunately it's literally just word of god that if Qui-Gon won, the light would win.

    A common problem in Star Wars- the fans have put waaaay more thought and worldbuilding into it than Lucas ever did.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Sadly true, he seemed to see Star Wars as his meal ticket 🤑 . I much prefer the books that were written by great authors, each with their own world-building talents set inside the Star Wars universe.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago*

    And then he still cheats by force manipulating the dice.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Calvin's dad says it builds character.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Could have just traded in the non-working Nubian ship and bought a junker. It'll get you to Coruscant just fine.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Even the people who don't kidnap children to survive aren't exactly concerned with safety in this galaxy.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Mr Gin just didn't want to criminally implicate himself. Cheating in a casino creates a lot more opportunities to be noticed and caught. Pod racing has better plausible deniability.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    "Exactly. This is why I am the master, Obi-Wan. You have a lot to learn about the ways of the Force."

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Honestly the original scene was real shit. Obi-Wan is Qui-Gon's apprentice, he's not about to point out how Qui-Gon's plan is just bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    He could’ve just put Renton on the game.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Would then being Jedi mean they could sense when the cards are about to change values?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    We have half a movie to fill with padding, Padawan

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Crap fanfiction!

    The Prequels, I mean.

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