They don't even have to be privatized. Some municipalities in the US require a "beach tag". I lived on a barrier island growing up, and we had to buy ours every year, or go to the beach two towns over where it was free (...except where it was privatized).

looking at you greece ಠ_ಠ

but seriously.. it's hard to eek out an existence in sydney... everything is so fucking expensive.

but peddle to the beach and read a book, it's free and the best thing in town.

Not in California

personal affront

as opposed to personal beach front

You are thinking of littering. Loitering is standing around idle on another person’s property. It’s usually used now adays to move vagrants along but the law has jim crow origins.

It's baffling to me that you can get fined by just standing somewhere doing nothing...

BTW, little newborn kittens or puppies are also called litter.

say "little kitten litter" 10 times

Allemannsretten lenge leve

Yes I've heard of that and I'm happy for you all over there.

But are you allowed to just lay around doing nothing in a public space?

Whatever the case, laying around doing nothing in public is pretty much illegal in the United states. It's considered loitering, which is a crime. Except for on beaches.

I always find it funny to figure out that stuffblike loitering isn't something the Simpson invented. It's something americans are not allowed to. But freedom is very important to them

The US is a shithole

I once went to a park sat on a bench and right in front of me was a no loitering sign. It's a park, what else am I going to do?

The US . if youre not white good luck even walking around. Youll get called in. And I'm not even in the deep south.

I immediately thought of homeless people when I read this. I mean I could probably lollygag a lot of places but if you look a certain way, have long hair, dirty clothes, a few bags with you, you start attracting the wrong kind of attention fast. Often in the nicest places of all. Shittier places leave you alone.

More of this country is crownlands than privately owned lands. Except for the National or Provincial Parks you can roam free without registration. There is no cell signal when you head out there, you need a sat phone or one way emergency beacon.

The land billionaires are salivating to carve up, log and develop? That land?

EDIT: I realized that this comment seems a little to pessimistic and doomer. I didn't mean it to sound like we should just roll over and accept that these beautiful areas are taken from us and others. We absolutely need to fight back, and you'd be surprised, that even most conservatives (save for the ultra-MAGA people) actually care about this land too and are deeply against it being privatized.

Now... Does that also say something about them caring less about POC than land, yes. But this is one of those issues you really don't have to push very hard to get people to care about. Even if they're not annual park visitors, a very large chunk of citizens in the US seem to care about this.

Black Lives Matter land?

Only illegal if you're a teenager or a minority.

when you could be sitting in a cafe or restaurant and contributing to the economy

or even better, being exploited for cheap labor in prison!

Exactly.

Why would you seat doing nothing instead of making money to donate them to some FOSS projects, that are desperately needing them? And there are many such projects. Time to invest in good things, go grab some buzz and donate to your favourite FOSS project(s)! Then we go chilling in the forest with moon partisans and being worthless to regimes around the globe... together.

There's plenty of places by me where you can do this, and I live in the most dense state in America.

Let's be fair, here. You can also get done for "standing while homeless," and "standing while poorly dressed," and also "standing while black and/or Hispanic."

Curiously enough, you'll never get nicked for loitering if you appear to be doing something vaguely socially acceptable. I suggest showing up with an easel and paints; you can hang around all day without anyone bothering you.

It's like that all up the US Pacific and Atlantic and the US has a lot of coast.

The gulf is for the poors to play in the oil every now and then as a treat.

I've been there. It felt so odd being able to go to a government park, after sunset, against the water, and just have it be filled with people (like 100 people in sight, across the 600ft of lakefront I could see). When does it officially close, like 10pm? One cop-type was making rounds in the parking lot but not actually enforcing anything. There were occasional fireworks. I'm sure there are altercations sometimes, but the most I saw in my hour there was unruly kids (10 year olds). It was so peaceful.

I come from the coast where there is only private land and government land that closes dusk to dawn.