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[–] 156 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

He then said that the episode underscored why the White House needed beefed up security, and its own ballroom.

And there it is

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    [–] 74 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Wake me up when they don't miss.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    They will always miss unless it is a real assassination backed by super powerful people. It really is not that hard to understand

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    I don't understand why really powerful people don't want him dead.

    He's started a war that has caused massive supply chain issues, he's introduced insane tariffs that have ramped up prices for component parts and called supply chain issues, he's introduced hostile domestic policies that have reduced international tourism in the United States, he's threatened companies that try claim their tariff money back except CEOs will have to claim the money back or they'll get sued by their shareholders thus putting the CEOs in an impossible position, ICE keep raiding factories and warehouses arresting foreign nationals even though they're the only people who will work in those facilities causing workforce shortages, ditto for farms, and he's causing international incidents which are resulting in less global trade and a lack of demand for American produced goods.

    Everyone's losing money because of this including the rich and powerful so they may decide that they want to replace him with someone who's capable of thinking through the consequences of their actions. Or at least someone who is more easily controlled.

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  • [–] 71 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    There's probably no conspiracy theory in play, but I do think it's funny that the first WHCD he attends as president because he hates the event and doesn't understand it ends as soon as it starts because of a gunman. Creating a gunman distraction to avoid getting roasted by the press is not beyond Trump but also who out there doesn't want to see him dead at this point? It's just that I'm not sure which answer Occam's Razor falls at this point because false flag and honest attempt seem about equal likelihood!

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  • [–] 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

    If the attacks are all fake, its incredibly poor false flag, because nobody feels bad for the prick except his absolutely ardent fans.

    If they're real, it should prove to everyone how absolutely hated he is, because no other US president in recent memory has had two assassination attempts that were publicly reported.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    3 if you count that homeless guy who was caught at the golf course

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Gerald Ford survived two attempts in the span of like two weeks. Three if you count airplane stairs

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    [–] 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    So for those of you like me who hadn't heard the news before seeing this, apparently some guy rushed through the metal detector area at the White House correspondents dinner, but was stopped by security staff.

    A bit like rushing Area 51 but if someone tried to solo the mission.

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  • [–] 45 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Guess I get breaking news from lemmy now.

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    They're not the only ones to pull shit, they're just bad at it...

    Like, they picked something he hates and never goes to, and made a big thing about him going. It makes sense now that it was never going to happen and they were just drawing as many eyes as possible.

    I saw Sports Center for the first time in like a decade last weekend, they were covering Wrestlemania as if it was an actual competition. Even when one of the "top 10" was someone openly cheating, and then they did an interview about how much work it took.

    Like, the weirdest part was it felt like modern "political analysis" where everyone just pretends it's not rigged and the current "champ" is a blatant cheat.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Because it’s all fake. They are faking culture and forcing it down our throats. All these YouTubers coming out of nowhere acting fucking stupid like clavicular? That’s Peter Thiels doing. Fake fake fake.

    Instead of following culture and reporting on it as it happens organically they are faking culture and forcing us to fall in line. That’s why everything feels fucking wrong now.

    And, the worst part, they are using the third world to do it for pennies. Destroy democracy for literally a hundred bucks a month just repost this shitty YouTube/kick/twist propaganda. We are so fucked.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    for a while i used to think wrestlemania is just drama for dudes too macho to admit they like musical theatre. it's delightful and their fanbase is wonderfully welcoming. there's a really good reason a lot of the other special needs kids watched professional wrestling, and it's because the other fans accept them for who they are.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    3 days ago there was leak saying that he plans to stage something to leave the event earlier.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Was there ? Or are you just saying that?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    How am I getting called conspiracy idiot for saying same about ear shooting

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  • [+] -7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Because you are, if you think that was a set up.

    Don’t know whats wrong with you, the fatlanders, that everything for you is a conspiracy. Have you thought that maybe there is something wrong with your brains?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Have you thought about maybe trying to construct an argument instead of insulting people? I know It’s easier than proving your point, but come on we can do better than this.

    I don’t even really agree that it was a set up. I just think you’re coming off as insulting and pretentious for no reason.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    If you go to Reddit r/conservative it’s selling. It’s always the same the attacker donated like 20 dollars os something to Democrats one time.

    My fear they could use this to take out freedoms, spy on peoples social media, or even worse say it’s a mental health problem be critical of them and start to get so called “dangerous” people by their speech.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah but conservatives don’t believe in mental health, remember? That’s why American healthcare practically considers it an indulgence.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    This second assassination theatre production is why we need to release the trump/epstein Files! He was reading a prepared statement very soon thereafter. It had to have been pre-written.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The dude is gonna drop dead pretty soon anyway. He’s starting to look like Palpatine.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    palpatine is actually smart and powerful, and it was suppose to represent mitch mcconnell. because mitch was the mastermind in the senate during his first term and after, into stalling until he got re-elected again.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    i believe its the 3rd, the first one is what got him election support, the 2nd one is shortly after he elected i dont think it made much news.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago

    Seriously there are multiple headline updates conflicting with each other. At this point I need a interview with the Secret Service agent who was shot to believe anything.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago

    He shat his pants and they needed an excuse to get him out of there.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    I’m not a person who believes in many conspiracies but, the first WHCD he attended since 2016 and there was virtually no security at the hotel?

    If you ever been in a city with a military base when the president or VP land, you know that doesn’t make sense. You don’t even need to be that close and they are on you.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    The BBC says he was last at the WHCD in 2011. He has never gone as president because he is too much of a baby to let himself be roasted.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    there was virtually no security at the hotel?

    Were we looking at the same event?

    The hallways were full of uniformed Secret Service agents and there were several plain clothes/undercover agents in many of the initial images.

    There were also many uniformed local police (one took a round in their bodyarmor).

    There were magnetometers for screening guests.

    There was a fully kitted counter assault squad standing by close enough to be on stage in about 10 seconds.

    The airspace was restricted and there were agents on the roof with counter drone weapons.

    There were multiple layers of security.

    All he managed to do was to sprint through an initial screening point and right into a hallway full of federal agents and local police where he was subdued.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Apparently you could get into the hotel with just a paper ticket. That’s what I was talking about.

    (I don’t actually believe it was staged)

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, while it was closed to the general public for security reasons. Existing guests were given a pass to get through the perimeter security.

    The event space was the primary security area and he was tackled before getting passed the entrance security.

    Since this was a place where the President's was prescence was planned, the security would be especially heavy. (If bad guys know where you're going to be they can plan more larger, more complex attacks.)

    The security would have been set up, covertly, to repel the equivalent of a ground assault. They'd have an ground quick reaction force nearby, the air space was restricted so there were likely drones or worse overhead.

    Trump is incompetent, but the Secret Service isn't (insert jokes about the sniper here) and they have basically infinite money as far as bodyguards go.

    This guy didn't get remotely close, at best the agents saved his life by tackling him before he got far enough for them to use lethal force.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    He was able to get close enough that Wolf Blitzer was standing close by to where it happened. That’s awfully close.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    A member of the press was in the hallway at a dinner for members of the press. That doesn't give any information about how close he was other than telling us he was in the right building.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    That’s true but if he was in the building, he also could have detonated a bomb and that’s pretty close for that.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yeah, he could have and it would have killed a lot of federal agents but they're there to, at the last extreme, die to protect the President.

    He would have had to get through the hallway gauntlet of armed agents, through a fortified entryway checkpoint, through a heavily armed counter assault team and passed the wall of bodyguards to even see the President.

    He ran the first checkpoint and was captured. It's like saying someone almost captured a military base because they drove through the gate. There are many, many more lethal layers between him and his objective.

    The scarier scenario was one where he would have carried a suicide vest to disrupt or kill the outer security so that another armed team could get through. That's why you see the counter assault team appear on stage immediately. They're there to handle the follow-on armed assault so the personal protection detail has time to get away.

    From a security perspective, he didn't even get close. The idea that someone would sprint passed the screening area is already accounted for. It isn't exactly a new or revolutionary tactic.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Let’s say they’re all fake, and they ramp up the frequency.

    Now it’s so so common place the security guys already expect some guy with a riffle to walk in the back door.

    “Ah mr assassin today? Alright pass on through.”

    Except that, one day that’ll be the real one 🥳

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    It's more likely the gunman was there to shoot at the press that TFG has vilified for the last ten years than an AA on his corpulent personage and his minions.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Can anyone tell me what is going on? I'm getting a bunch of assassination attempts on POTUS memes and haven't read the news as it tends to be BS mostly.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    There has been an assassination attempt on Trump (or somewhere else in that table, IDK). Apparently they caught the guy.

    Real information is something we will only have tomorrow. Or never. But people want to talk.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Maybe...we don't actually know who he was intending to shoot. We're assuming it was trump, but the shooter was stopped some distance from the dining room, so who knows.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    "Americans why are you not trying to shoot this guy" someone tries to shoot this guy "FAKE!"

    (/s -- I do understand where this sentiment is coming from, but it's just a bit too early to tell what it really was)

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago

    Well, the one where his ear got scratched, the FBI refuses to investigate it. That definitely makes me curious. They also seemed to have set positions for photographers to get his picture as he raises his fist with the flag in the background. There's certainly some strange things going on with that.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I am not sure if was staged or not. But after his post as Christ and attacking the pope, his numbers with Christians were really low.

    It’s a coincidence this person made a big post attacking Christians just before. For sure will help his numbers with this group

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Dunno, the media is loudly spinning him into a hero. And average low-info Americans tend to believe what they're told.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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    The young lady with the... uzi. Is she single?

    https://youtu.be/74ocbvwam7c?t=83

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    those outside the use immediately knew he was faking, and right wingers, ooh look a conspiracy theorists

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