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[–] 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

there was virtually no security at the hotel?

Were we looking at the same event?

The hallways were full of uniformed Secret Service agents and there were several plain clothes/undercover agents in many of the initial images.

There were also many uniformed local police (one took a round in their bodyarmor).

There were magnetometers for screening guests.

There was a fully kitted counter assault squad standing by close enough to be on stage in about 10 seconds.

The airspace was restricted and there were agents on the roof with counter drone weapons.

There were multiple layers of security.

All he managed to do was to sprint through an initial screening point and right into a hallway full of federal agents and local police where he was subdued.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Apparently you could get into the hotel with just a paper ticket. That’s what I was talking about.

    (I don’t actually believe it was staged)

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, while it was closed to the general public for security reasons. Existing guests were given a pass to get through the perimeter security.

    The event space was the primary security area and he was tackled before getting passed the entrance security.

    Since this was a place where the President's was prescence was planned, the security would be especially heavy. (If bad guys know where you're going to be they can plan more larger, more complex attacks.)

    The security would have been set up, covertly, to repel the equivalent of a ground assault. They'd have an ground quick reaction force nearby, the air space was restricted so there were likely drones or worse overhead.

    Trump is incompetent, but the Secret Service isn't (insert jokes about the sniper here) and they have basically infinite money as far as bodyguards go.

    This guy didn't get remotely close, at best the agents saved his life by tackling him before he got far enough for them to use lethal force.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    He was able to get close enough that Wolf Blitzer was standing close by to where it happened. That’s awfully close.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    A member of the press was in the hallway at a dinner for members of the press. That doesn't give any information about how close he was other than telling us he was in the right building.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    That’s true but if he was in the building, he also could have detonated a bomb and that’s pretty close for that.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yeah, he could have and it would have killed a lot of federal agents but they're there to, at the last extreme, die to protect the President.

    He would have had to get through the hallway gauntlet of armed agents, through a fortified entryway checkpoint, through a heavily armed counter assault team and passed the wall of bodyguards to even see the President.

    He ran the first checkpoint and was captured. It's like saying someone almost captured a military base because they drove through the gate. There are many, many more lethal layers between him and his objective.

    The scarier scenario was one where he would have carried a suicide vest to disrupt or kill the outer security so that another armed team could get through. That's why you see the counter assault team appear on stage immediately. They're there to handle the follow-on armed assault so the personal protection detail has time to get away.

    From a security perspective, he didn't even get close. The idea that someone would sprint passed the screening area is already accounted for. It isn't exactly a new or revolutionary tactic.

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