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[–] 40 points 6 months ago

We know he was a far right agitator who wanted for there to be a massive right wing backlash against the left if I remember correctly.

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  • [–] 43 points 6 months ago (26 children)
  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago (21 children)

    The kid who got the closest to assassinating Trump that we know of. Although, the details are extremely dubious, with some going as far as to say the assassination attempt was staged.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Guy on the roof who died supposedly clipping Trump's ear?

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    The magically regenerating ear.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Interesting. Content/proof for this?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The proof is when the demented turd forgot to put a maxi pad on his ear the next week and there wasn't so much as a scratch. Nobody heals that fast or completely from a gunshot wound of any kind, especially a full blown geriatric.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Ofc it was staged. Do you also believe in fast and furious movies?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Do you think Trump is brave enough to sit there with a good chance of being hit? No, literally nothing is worth him feeling personal risk. That's why it's a dumb conspiracy theory.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    Do you think Trump's bodyguards would have left him uncovered while they pretty much posed for a dramatic Renaissance-core photo after he was "shot" 🙄? Look at that photo, they left him wide open for another shot while his ear is supposedly bleeding. Because they knew from rehearsal that the only second shot would be coming from the camera.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I don't think he's "brave" enough, but I do think he is STUPID enough. You are trying to apply normal logic to virtuosically incompetent MAGAs. They never looked at it like they were putting Trump's life in danger, they were going to rally the entire nation behind Trump, after he was almost assassinated, and ride that to a wildly popular win on the election.

    Except the overwhelming response was irritation that we didn't get to see his head explode on national TV. Then it became immediately apparent that it was all a clumsy hoax that resulted in a murder, and they quickly buried it.

    Except when Trump tried to revive the sympathy vote by screaming at the debate about how he "got shot in the head!" What a fucking pathetic drama queen.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Are you dumb? Do you think he was like yeaa shoot me in the ear but only slightly? There is super mega huge low probability of this thing happening naturally. Add here the fact that he was going to lose and this event boosted his votes so much.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Except there wasn't a bullet. Of course he wouldn't, he didn't. Literally everything he says and does is a lie in some way.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Are we just ignoring the Cory Comperatore guy who was shot and died during the assassination attempt?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Shooting someone else is no threat to him.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You said there wasn’t a bullet, I talked about the guy that got shot and died via a bullet.

    That’s all my point was about.

    Trump is a narcissistic, rapist, pedophile, piece of shit, don’t think I’m defending him in anyway.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    I probably wasn't clear enough, my fault. There was a bullet in the area yes, I didn't mean it to sound otherwise. What I meant was it wasn't actually anywhere near the supposed target at any point, it hit exactly where and who was intended without coming even close to Trump.

    There's also a photo that supposedly shows the bullet captured in flight by Trump's head, except for that to be real it would have to be going at least twice the speed a real bullet would have been. We know the camera settings and we know how fast a bullet goes over a given distance and the math does not add up.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    I know that he had "laughably bad aim" when he tried to join his Highschool rifle team

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  • [–] 80 points 6 months ago (29 children)
  • [–] 72 points 6 months ago (27 children)

    I do too.

    It's absolutely inconceivable to me that USSS let a shooter get that close, that anyone could miss that shot, and that Trump would do anything but shit his pants and immediately save his own skin when faced with an actual threat

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  • [–] 64 points 6 months ago

    The Secret Service part might make more sense with more context. At the time, Trump had somewhat limited Secret Service because he was not the current president. And he was running his team ragged going to rally after rally, refusing their security recommendations.

    They didn't have the time or the manpower to do the job they were asked to do.

    Then, this is just my theory, but although the Secret Service is like the best of the best police, I suspect Trump attracts the worst of the best of the best, if you know what I mean.

    In every other job around him, Trump manages to fill it with the worst people available. Competent people don't like working with Trump because he constantly interferes with their work. I see no reason why his security would be different.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    iirc the shot was 300 yards with iron sights. That's not impossible but it's not easy either. Someone who doesn't shoot often would definitely have trouble with that

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    100 yds with iron sights isn’t exactly easy.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Does it matter if he used blanks?

    Yes, I'm implying this was staged and he was just used. Maybe he was even told that he was there to protect trump as a secret backup to USSS. There are a lot of mentally ill people that you could convince of anything.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    He didn't use blanks, he just missed the target. Unless his target was the firefighter behind Trump in which case he did well. Trump got scratched by either shrapnel (possible), one of the SS officers jumping on him (likely) or it was a blood squib (conspiracy). But he did feel his ear before the SS officers jumped him.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago*

    Unless his target was the firefighter behind Trump in which case he did well.

    Anybody remember that line from Shooter?

    You want to take away all suspicion away when you shoot someone? Shoot him when he's standing next to the president.

    Maybe crazy... but....

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Why are you assuming he killed that guy?

    If this was staged why would trump give even a tiny chance of being hurt by some loon?

    There were multiple shots fired at the moment.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    IIRC, the shot was also just inside where the rifle would be effective.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    The rifle is effective at ranges further than the shooter. In every case. That rifle is more than capable of a killing shot from there, and further.

    He was 130 m or so away. 5.56 is deadly from further. A lot further.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Every marine qualifies with 5.56 at 500m

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I don’t like that this is thrown around like it means anything. You do not need to hit that target to qualify, and you will not be very combat effective at that range anyway. Range quals ≠ combat effectiveness.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Not even close. In the Marine Corps, we qualified at 500yds with effectively the same rifle using iron sights

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    First, not even close. The moa of the rifle used was 2-3, where both the m4 and m16 are about 1. It was a crappy rifle that sold as a very-budget rifle. It wouldn’t even qualify as “good enough”. Like the m16.

    Secondly, the ammo he was using was a lighter loading for target shooting and lower energy.

    As set up, it was at the edge of what crooks could be effective at (which is significantly lower than what he can hit at.) even if Crooks had the skill to make the shot. (Which he didn’t.)

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    his ear also never got shot, and he had blood on it somehow? where did it come from. hence the staging accusations.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    IIRC the consensus was the secret service agent tackle caused it. Not surprising for a frail old man to be scraped pretty easily. The pageantry with the gauze was to leverage the injury into a tough guy image instead of sad bruised geriatric.

    I don't really buy the staged conspiracy theories.

    • Secret service protection is reduced when you're not the president and would be spread thinnest during peak rally-season
    • Trump's polling was really, really bad at the time. The motive makes sense along with the demographics of the shooter (all these assassination attempts are from disillusioned groyper-types)
    • He looked confused/in shock during and afterwards and he's not a good enough actor to fake that
    • A person died from the shots, no chance live ammo would be allowed
    • In the weeks following Trump made very few appearances and rumors were describing ptsd symptoms. If it were staged you can be damn sure that blowhard would be putting on photo shoots every day
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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    I don't know if it was a setup, but I'm confident Trump was not shot. Even an ear piercing leaves a scar. And that part of the ear doesn't bleed much. Also, wounds don't heal three days later.

    But as much as any of that, Trump would shit his pants if he were actually shot.

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  • It is worse. Cartilage doesn't regrow. Take a look at a pic of someone who has their ear torn or shot. They grow back like shit without intervention.

    There is no way to that he had more than a graze.

    Then again, I'm probably just paranoid. It isn't like he has direct experience with fake blood capsules or the people who use them regularly.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    The biggest reason I have my doubts it was staged is I don't think Trump's competent enough to stage an assassination attempt that well. His ear could plausibly have been grazed by a bullet enough to make it bleed like that, but not leave any scarring. His ear looks intact even right after it happened:

    If it was staged, it's the most uncharacteristically competent thing he's ever done.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Trump was literally on professional wrestling where they cut their ears with razors to fake more serious injuries. Faking an assassination by bleeding his ear a bit is the most plausible scenario. He healed in days with no visible damage because it wasn't a bullet it was a tiny cut. Maybe because he was taking advantage of a legit attempt, maybe because it was staged, I won't comment on that but this had to have been kayfabe.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I happened to see a photo of his right side the other day and noticed that there is a little nick in the outer part of his ear cartilage, right about where the darkest red part is on this photo. And there's that photo of the bullet going past his head where he grabs his ear and there's blood on his fingers. I'm guessing that the bullet was close enough that maybe the air around it caused a wound? But there's no way a bullet full-on hit his ear.

    Regardless, I agree that it wasn't staged. Just not as bad of a wound for him than they want us to believe (can't say the same for the volunteer fireman, though...)

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Doesn’t look like the usual earpiece to me. Or a regular ear.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Staged event obviously. Your ear doesn't just miraculously regrow, never mind in 3 days

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It's crazy to think that we were just millimeters away from a completely different timeline

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    "I went forward in time...to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the assassination attempt."

    "How many did you see?"

    "Fourteen million, six hundred and five."

    "How many did he survive?"

    "One."

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    We know he was a lousy shoot.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    My friends and I refer to him as "Almost Hero".

    Unfortunately, he failed.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    The "Free World" is a propaganda term,[1][2] primarily used during the Second World War[3] and Cold War, to refer to the Allies, Western Bloc and aligned countries. - Wikipedia

    For those not familiar with the phrasing. Always feels like being teleported back to the mid 1900s.

    I will say it's a solid propoganda term for regions in which many people feel like wage slaves and the antiestablishment fervor is at such a fever pitch that authoritarians are being voted in.

    The same region thats financed a genocide in Gaza and has a power center that has an immigration and customs enforcement akin to the gestapo is the free world. Hmm. Might be time to retire this descriptor guys.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Here is what probably happened. Because this guy was a maga. That's been established.

    Someone recruited him to fire a blank. They assured him he would just be arrested or maybe do a fake death and give him a new identity. Though they planned to kill him.

    They likely told him this would help secure trump the presidency.

    And it was honorable.

    They probably found him by profiling his social media activity.

    Weird how he didn't have much to be found huh? Almost like someone high up wiped his record?

    This is what I think. This kid was told to fire a blank. Given a gun and the blank.

    Told Where to be. When to do it.

    And then killed so he could never talk.

    Which means. Trump killed him too. A long with all the other deaths on his hands.

    Eventually someone who knows, will snitch. No doubt some shady lawyer was involved somehow.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Nice foil hat, but the ear was barely scraped, not severed, and people behind Trump were critically injured or killed.

    Corey Comperatore, are you guys going to call him a crisis actor? This thread reads like an Alex Jones podcast.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Baseless conspiracy is baseless.

    More than likely, this young man lapped up Trump's violent rhetoric, then expirenced first-hand the damage his policies were doing. When you've been conditioned to think of political violence as the ultimate solution, and then suddenly realize that your "God-King" is a demented pedophile conman who fucked your whole town out of their money, rights and homes in order to enrich his pedophile billionaire buddies... Well, the rest is history. He took his shot.

    I think the guy was a young impressionable idiot, but at least he had some balls, which is more than you can say for most people.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It's true that disillusioned fanatics often turn violent. I'm willing to entertain your theory.

    I still think the whole thing was staged.

    Even if the ear was only nicked, there would be clear scarring.

    But no scar. The flag being lowered for the photo op. How quickly the kid was killed yet no one spotted him setting up a rifle until he fired. But knew exactly where he was immediately after the shot was fired, and shot him.

    I mean people still aren't even sure where the bullet that hit jfk came from.

    After all the stuff with Epstein files. Israel. The crypto scams. The inside trading. 34 convicted felonies.

    You really think he wouldn't do what I proposed?

    He has no limits. He raped little girls. He bombed a girl's school. He has openly admitted to vote manipulation in the election though many people from both sides deny it could have happened. He literally lies at a 10:1 ratio.

    Why would anyone think anything he says or does is true or honorable in any way. ?

    Fool you once shame on them. Fool you twice, shame on you.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    Here's the thing...

    If it was staged, there is no way in hell trump would have left the stage. Guy loves his theatrics.

    I don't think he actually got clipped by a bullet. There is a huge number of things that can scratch your ear when you are tackled to the ground on top of broken glass.

    The simple solution is that TC tried and missed.

    The alternative is that trump was in on it, and managed to keep his mouth shut. And that he didn't insist on grandstanding and bragging about being shot at during that very event. And the USSS was in on it and kept all their mouths shut. And there is a communication trail between the trump campaign and TC which no one has uncovered.

    Remember, these fucking idiots can't stop quiet snitching on each other because they are all fucking stupid. There is no way in hell they could keep a conspiracy this complex under wraps.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    The majority of Congress is 100% loyal to him.

    There is a huge conspiracy to protect the people in the Epstein files that's been going on for decades.

    There are plenty of people who would set this up.

    Heritage foundation is one of them.

    The maga people are fanatics. They are 100% loyal. And he is known to surround himself with such people.

    If nothing else, such people like heritage foundation see him as a tool to be used. So their complicency is not based on their love of him but their need to keep him around to control.

    I agree that lots of things can cause body damage. Still no scar though. After all that blood.
    And the flag. The quick death of the shooter.

    It's just too many sus things to excuse.

    His ratings jumped after this little stunt.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Again, I'm not saying they are beyond trying it. I am saying that they are too fucking incompetent to actually do it and not leak it everywhere.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    Okay so now I can definitely see your point.

    They are incompetent as fuck.

    When people say "I don't think he would do that". I'm like. Yes he would. He's a narcissist sociopath.

    But if you are saying. "Sure he might want to but their incompetence is very high". Then I can agree that's a strong counter argument.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Isnt this the one that was staged, photo ops and all prepared?

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I can't believe any intelligent person would think this wasn't a totally staged event.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    They staged a nick of the ear, then the death of Corey Comperatore and the critical wounding or two others?

    The deceased victim was identified as Corey Comperatore, 50, of Sarver, PA. The second victim has been identified as 57-year-old David Dutch, of New Kensington, PA, who is currently listed in stable condition. The third victim was identified as 74-year-old James Copenhaver, of Moon Township, PA. He is also listed in stable condition.

    Now tell us idiots how blanks did this.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    the greatest enemy of the right wing, and conservatives in generals is each other.

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