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[–] 87 points 7 months ago

Shorts should have been a different app in the first place

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Blocked with uBO a long time ago. lmao

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Not out of the box, but it can block basically anything if you create a custom filter.

    I even use it to re-size the thumbnails so I get 5 videos per row on my feed instead of just 3.

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  • [–] 43 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    used Revanced to get rid of them already

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Heard it got discontinued by devs leaving over POS repo owner and that "Morphe" is it's successor with the devs moving there instead.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    great, more drama for me to figure out.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Looks pretty painless to me. Yes, I like to find something and when it works, stick with it as I have with ReVanced. But I'm going to try this and if I have any troubles I'll edit this comment.

    https://morpheapp.software/

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Didn't mean how hard is to use their alternative, just that its hard keeping up with all that drama

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    That's kind of what I'm saying though, it's pretty painless to use the new installer, why worry about the drama? Just use what works. I tried it and it was painless, and I don't really care about squabbling on dev teams, I just know what works now 🤷

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Revanced is the best thing to happen to YouTube!

    Been using it since YouTube Vanced became brokie and I've loved every change they've made, even with GitHub trying to stop them

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Why don't they just make them behave like normal videos? The problem with shorts is the repeating and the endless scrolling (and the ever-present prompt to scroll). A lot of perfectly useful/entertaining content has been recommended to me by the static presentation on the home screen.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That's the whole idea of shorts and tiktok style though; rapidly consuming quick content.

    I think its interesting that for some people, that experience is deeply uncomfortable, and for others its necessary. It may sound over the top but I see a lot of parallels to hard drug addiction.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I don't think it's necessary for anyone, though I understand you probably mean they feel it is. They've done at least one study I read which showed that being fed content actually makes you stupid in the immediate short-term (long-term was outside the scope of the study). Consuming the same content by selecting which ones you want to see caused no problems. It's the removal of agency that's thought to be the problem, training your brain to be passive.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I just use this extension that plays them like normal videos. The UX for shorts is dumb as fuck

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Same it's the best of both. Sometimes I actually want to watch a short because it's relevant. The problem is that the UI autoplays the next video and you can't time scrub back to the bit you probably wanted to see a second time and before you know it you're watching cat videos and 1 hour has passed.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    It doesn't actually turn off shorts, just prevents (limits) infinite scrolling.

    You'll still be recommended shorts and if you accidentally click a short it will play.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    i just set up a redirect from /shorts/video-id to /watch?v=video-id. then you get the normal player.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    The player isn't the issue with shorts. It's the content.

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  • [+] 12 points 7 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    About god damned time, we dont want tiktok

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Turned that shit on immediately.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago*

    I've had the Unhook extension for years, and YouTube's decision not to make Shorts hideable was the catalyst. I still won't uninstall it because it gets rid of a bunch of YouTube's other trash, but this is at least moves the needle so it's no longer unthinkable to uninstall it.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    I don't watch shorts, but I've checked the setting anyway and the minimum that it allows for me is 15 minutes, not 0.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    PipePipe has no shorts to begin!

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    I just use Freetube.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    NewPipe literally has none of this shit. The various invidious instances as well. If you continue to use the official YouTube app, that's on you.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    OH THANK GOD

    Edit: why no zero option.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Okay, you gotta admit that "feed limit" is a pretty good joke.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Already blocked with revanced

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    this is app only and the 0 hour limit is now gone

    sadly useless advice now

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Those shorts are entertaining little chunks of nothing that have no date and are usually cut off at the end. I'm thankful I can urn them off.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Mine doesn't have an option for 0.

    Lame.

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    Absurd that we need YouTube for that. In an ideal world, YouTube would be a backend service with an open API which there would be dozens of different apps for, with different features, including maybe this one… but I suppose you can't make money with an ideal world…

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Maybe I’m using Shorts in a different way, but I’m not seeing a problem with them. I just view them through the home page and they’re in my suggested list like every other video. I consider them just another format of video to watch.

    I think the difference is I look at them like discreet units and then jump back to my homepage as opposed to doomscrolling them.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    For people browsing on mobile in the youtube app(the vast majority, i imagine), if you click a short it will take you into the shorts interface, which is designed to maximally draw users in to doomscrolling. On pc its a very different experience and easier to disengage since it just pops up like a normal video (usually?)

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I have two main conplaints about shorts, myself, the end result of which is that I prefer to just never see them in my feed, ever.

    1. Most shorts that pop up for me are literally just clips from longer form videos I've already seen, or are already on my Watch Later list. And there's SO damn many of them. Those types of shorts are purely clutter.

    2. The other type of shorts I see most often are just aping the tiktok format, characterized by being extremely shallow and low-effort, as well as having the INFURIATING tendency to be over-edited for length trimming. You know the type of editing I mean, the one where the creator apparently thinks that even pausing to BREATHE between words or thoughts is too much downtime in the video. I find it insulting that TikTok and now YouTube have normalized the idea that creators should be so overwhelmingly desperate to capture every moment of your attention. Plus, it's pretty well understood by now that feeding your attention that heavily is wildly unhealthy for your brain.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    This really fucks up the delivery and timing of comedy clips. I’ll admit I watch a lot of shorts and there are some specific creators who are really good at it. Shout out to miniminuteman and hydronyc.

    I quickly run into terribly cut clips that are only coherent when you watch the full video, and of course a plethora of AI slop of both clips and ads.

    I need to get off this shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The is changed on Android, at least, now. 15 min is the minimum so you can't disable it entirely.

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    [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    so more restrictions, cool, interesting but how much they have to do to totaly inject hate in their userbase like facebook did

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    It's not a restriction, it's user control. You can have them always on (and I suspect that will stay as the default), turn them off, or anything in between.

    You just got more tools to control the interface and remove what you don't care about, what's wrong about that?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    appreciate it but just not write full reply, i thought: yes this feature is great but they have more restrictions and always fight adblockers, yes this still understandable by this is biggest video sharing service

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    lol there is no 0 option

    this isn’t about user control this is getting ahead of CYA because regulation is likely coming given multiple countries are serious about limiting ages that can access social media

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