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[–] 99 points 6 months ago (6 children)

It is insane how quickly this shit has appeared around the world.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    not really. it was a natural progression. with any online movement it always goes undergound > cool > profitable > user blocked > forced. we're at the forced stage of social media. What I mean by this is at one point we found social media and even LLMs cool. companies decided they needed to capitalize on this cool new tech and make a buck out of so they in turn hammered ads and tracking into everything. the user eventually gets wise and blocks all of this while still consuming the product. So said companies now demand that world governments prevent people from out right blocking them so they can continue marketing to them and selling their data for a profit. They then mask this as "protecting the children". All you have to do is look at whose financially backing these movements. Surprise, Surprise one of the top backers/lobbyists is Meta.

    It moved quickly because it needed to move quickly otherwise the potential for lost profit was massive. LLMs are getting on board with this too because they're not making any money and their best bet is to "age restrict" their bots so they an sell the users data. and user data from an LLM is INSANELY more valuable than say Facebook user data. Users are more likely to tell a bot things that they wouldn't admit on social media...and there's money to be made off that.

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago
    [–] 129 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    God forbid operating system had a flag that said "This device is used by a child" and it would be set by a fucking parent as part of parental controls and not nanny states.

    Instead we need to provide our photos and ID scans to some incompetent 3rd parties to prove we are in fact adults. Make parenting parent's job not the government. What the fuck is this?

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago*

    I am sorry, but isn't it 99% not about "children protection" but general surveillance for everyone wrapped up in a "pretty" package that plays, again, on fears as the parenting and unforeseen future backed up with the "time-saving" features for those who are in a hurry within the same system?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    This has nothing at all to do with actually protecting children. This is entirely about the fascist state cracking down on its citizens and restricting their freedoms.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah arguing with their disingenuous bad faith bullshit is.... A lot. And you never win because the deranged pedophiles dont care about protecting children.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago

    "Problem" is, no one does that. And I get that its on the parents in that case but these lazy ass parents basically want the nanny state to nanny them. The people who want this basically are only allowed to get off on being repressed by some controling influence (God, the state, etc).

    It also means kids get around it. I used the parental controls on mybson't Xbix but he would just go play stuff at his friend's house.

    Also, mildly related, and maybe its changed, companies need to make it easier for parents to remove parental controls. Because if I remeber, back when I did that after he was older (he is like 27 now), it was a pain to remove his Xbox account from being associated with mine as a parent.

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Many people will switch to Linux (people will still work around SystemD, so don’t bring that up).

    The part that will be the killer move is when they enact a law requiring all US hosted websites to enact age verification via attestation from the operating system. Some savvy people will get around that while they still have root, but then you’re gonna see a Google Play Services style ramp up where the attestation will only pass if Secure Boot is enabled, and eventually root is restricted.

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  • [+] 40 points 6 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It'll be the same until "We noticed you follow an LGBTQ influencer on that Insta, please comply with the reeducation ICE crew who will arrive shortly."

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    ICE crew who will arrive shortly.

    They'd be there already but, despite having all this data, they still went to the wrong house, broke the door down and shot the dog. Once they've finished rounding up all the schoolchildren there, they'll be on their way over to you!

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  • [+] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    Secure boot by itself isn’t a bad thing. It basically just says the OS you boot from has to have a signed and approved bootloader/drivers. The problem is, the approval list is handled by the board manufacturer and not every version of Linux supports it since it has to be signed and approved. Also, if you have unsigned kernel level modules (such as an open source video driver) that can cause the process the break as the driver isn’t signed. I believe user space is much more accepting.

    From a privacy aspect, it isn’t directly impacting, except it limits which distros you use, and may prevent you from doing other privacy related changes as a low level or forcing you to use signed binaries that you may not be able to audit.

    Edit: a few notes as I went diving further. So Microsoft actually controls the root CA that SecureBoot is based on and signs other apps, including Linux and then they add their own shims in. So sadly MS still has control out of the box.

    However, it is possible on most (not all) systems to add in your own signing keys to the secureboot enclave. So with enough work you can do it yourself, but you basically have to make sure everything is signed with your key when you compile the kernel and associated drivers.

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  • [+] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    That’s…. a stretch. The issue is that the default CA that manufacturers include is Microsoft, so Debian developed a shim, signed by Microsoft, so that they could sign their own distros ans modules.

    Since a lot of boards allow you to inject your own key into the MOK for UEFI, you can basically roll your own with a little work. It’s just not “out of the box” since they’d have to validate multiple different distros.

    It’s more a matter of sheer size of Microsoft vs Linux rather than locking. I’ve said “a lot” and “most” around boards given that I’m not sure what the breakdown is, but I haven’t seen a board that doesn’t do that.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Next thing you know, you turn 18, you get a notification on your laptop saying you've been enrolled in the Selective Service, you get a knock on your door, a military officer greets you, and says, "Good morning! We've taken notice of your academics and your Steam library...have you thought about your future, son?"

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  • [–] 53 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Can someone Luigi Zuck, Musk, Besos and the whole gang?

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    My watch has an operating system. So does my car.

    It's this level of dumb that makes me wonder when boomers are ever going to get term limits so someone who can open outlook without asking a staffer can make a decision on tech.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Papers, please, comrade.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    So they're going to need to start using identity certificates?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    so speculate about it is not a solution, idk what they want to build except their cashes)

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Does it work in command line?

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