"the unthinkable"
Hyperbole much?
"the unthinkable"
Hyperbole much?
Dramatic much? Canceling a subscription is 'the unthinkable' now? For fuck's sake.
FoRcInG uSeRs To CoNsIdEr ThE uNtHiNkAbLe
Fuck off bootlickers
Lol, piracy, the logical solution.
There isn't a single device in my home that shows YouTube ads.
I'll jump through any hoop before I give that shit website money.
Aah, shit website but you still watch it… oh, the irony
Yup.
I think capitalism is shit but I'm still forced to participate in it. Until there is something better to use I'm stuck with YouTube.
Nobody is forcing you to consume content on the internet, this is a laughable defense. You aren't forced by society or capitalism to watch YouTube.
You're absolutely right.
However, if I can consume said content without giving money to companies who are going over and above to be anti-consumer? I'll 100% take advantage of that.
If YouTube wants to go out of their way to make it harder for me to watch legally, I'll go out of my way to watch illegally. You think I pay for 17 different streaming services for TV shows me or my partner want to watch? Fuck all that we pay for IPTV.
Pirates like me don't want to have to jump hoops to watch your shit. But all these streaming platforms, Youtube, Twitch, the greed has become so hard to ignore that it's impossible to rationalize paying them to fuck you anyway. Pay $18 a month for this service to watch this show, but this other show is on another service for another $16 a month. Fuck all that I'll just open up whichever pirating site I have saved and download the fucking show in a half hour and toss it on my external HDD and watch it anyway.
I have no respect for companies that don't respect their consumers.
There's Peertube, Vimeo, and others
Okay. Let me know when the dozens of content creators I follow on YouTube migrate there.
"Content creators" lol. I mean, I guess there could be, but YT stopped being decent about 10 years ago, maybe longer. I haven't used it but for an occasional video. Surprisingly, I haven't missed it. There's not much on YouTube I couldn't get elsewhere, with less ads, and to the point vs a 10 minute video intro plus sponsor plugs, etc.
What kind of content do you watch? Some of the stuff I enjoy watching I can definitely get my fix from elsewhere (educational, food/cooking/recipes, tech news); some of it is very person-specific so I would miss out on their specific views on things but I still would have other sources to turn to if I could disregard that (essays, reviews, comedy); and some of it is like 'well my choices are basically youtube or twitch' (let's plays/other video game content)
(EDIT: Reviews not News. I hate watching most news tbh.)
I just kind of forego any content. I used to watch silly stuff like the Electroboom guy, Linux Tech tips A LONG time ago when it felt more personable and meaningful. My son watches carwow or something, doing car comparisons sort of how Top gear used to, but I'm not into it as I can't afford those nice cars lol.
Tech review stuff gets under my skin bc it's so much promotion of sponsors, their channels, and they're always begging for likes and subscribes... 🤮 plus they're often biased. I know there's a large audience to cater to but I feel often times I'm more, product and feature aware than they are, but I'm also obsessed with technology, FOSS, self-hosting, etc.
Yet you participate in society. Curious.
I don’t think that soviety is shit. I think we have done wonderful things in society. And we keep making it better. Every society has its problems, but there is a way to make them better.
Without society there wouldn’t be literature, medicine, knowlidge, science, etc.
Yes, there are bad things also, but as I said, we can and must make them better. And if you watch in the long run through history there is no better time to be living than now.
And when they try to force online ID bullshit I'll permanently walk away. We don't deserve the WWW if its just full of scammers. I'd rather rewatch my favorite anime for the millionth time.
forcing many users to consider the unthinkable
.... Death???
Here I am using firefox and ublock or newpipe, I haven't seen a youtube ad in years. 🤷
I only see ads when I go to a friends house and they have that on the tv app blasting 1min ads every 5minutes.
And revanced for my phone
Revanced has been abandoned by a majority of maintainers who have all moved to Morphe. Would highly recommend
whoa wait what? what happened?
Allegedly, the "developers" of the app behave poorly towards "code contributors" who did large amounts of work for free, leading to those contributors leaving to start Morphe.
Later, ReVanced allegedly copied a lot of Morphe code without attribution, when the Morphe open source licence required attribution, with an alleged screenshot of the ReVanced discord channel showing a developer wanting to use AI to automatically copy Morphe code. The ReVanced subreddit also allegedly bans people who bring up Morphe.
I would recommend firefox + ublock origin also for phone. Install firefox, and though the menu add the extensions "video background play fix" and "ublock origin".
They think delay before every video and "'experiencing interruptions? Find out why" banners are going to make me turn off my ubo. Good luck with that.
Lmao, you want to have a good laugh, read through the reddit comments on this. Full of corpo bootlickers talking about how poor Google needs to make money, why won't you think of the corpos??
Probably bots trying to trick people into thinking it's absurd and bad and all that.
I must be stupid, because I can never tell.
There is an assumption these people are making that I am not sure they are aware they are making. They are assuming the cost of running YouTube is increasing so the cost of YouTube premium needs to increase. Every public company is driven by maximizing share holder value, the goal is to extract as much money as possible from the user.
If I’m paying, it will be to nebula. YouTube is toxic.
I miss the days when companies would grandfather your price in, so price hikes only effected new users... Now days everyone pays.
Those days were brief if they ever existed. It’s actually pretty common to offer new users even sweeter deals for joining, and zero promotions to get loyal users to stay.
Yeah but we are seeing the opposite of that right now with Netflix raising their base rates, short term promotions are what new users get these days.
Cell phone plans, software, other subscription services have definitely kept user rates locked in despite rising base rates.
forcing many users to consider the unthinkable
Use a firefox clone and ublock?
(and linux, btw)
I I received the email today telling me that they were going to raise the price of my family plan by $4 per month. I'm guessing that their costs have not increased in any way, and probably have decreased. I assume it's just another squeeze tactic from the company that used to not be evil.
I imagine costs have increased (more expensive server components due to ai shortages, more users to stream to, ever-increasing storage for the unthinkable amount of video that gets uploaded to YouTube nonstop). I imagine Google going all in on ai (infinite negative money glitch) costs a lot and they're trying to cover the costs elsewhere so the investor report doesn't look so bad and spook stockholders into selling. I'd keep an eye on other Google services to see if their prices also go up over the coming months.
I think its likely the codex price hike, not Ai
Most of their servers are processing and multiencoding with h264/h265, and even if people are moving away from that for av1 they have such a massive platform that they still have to utilize it even when most have moved on
Ill rerespond to this to a link to exactly what im talking about if I remember
That only applies to new contracts from what I heard, not to existing contracts. Google certainly has a long term contract that wouldn't be affected by the increased royalties for new H.264 contracts.
Oh, come now... You really telling me you think they or any other multi-billion dollar corp won't frontload the costs and pocket the difference?
Or 'ease' the price increase in over a few quarters so that its not met with as harsh of backlash?
Not defending Google, but how many employees do they have? Did they all get raises this year? I bet license deals from the music industry probably went up too. (No proof but assuming)
But I agree 100%, they are without a doubt no longer following "don't be evil". But it's disingenuous to believe they're annual costs are not increasing along with literally everything else.
I wasn't being disingenuous and I just validated my assumptions.
The cost of compute per million instructions has continued to decrease. The cost of storage on HDD has also continued to decrease, albeit more slowly. The cost of NAND storage has increased due to the supply crunch that Google helped create. Average pay at Google has gone up 5% over the past two years, but this is offset at least in part by mass layoffs. License fees for music have remained stagnant.
While a lot of those things are arguable one way or another, depending on whose numbers you look at and what specific details you want to focus on, one thing is not. Google's profits have nearly doubled in the past 3 years. There is no reason for a price increase beyond corporate greed.
Why is everything being done "quietly" lately?
Because its a covering instead of saying underhanded or sneaky or tricking users.
"I didn't steal, I was just quietly sneaking money from their wallet!"
Announcing price hikes is bad marketing
I'm speaking more of the reporting. It seems like every headline claims something is being done "quietly" now when it was actually announced loud and clear. Take this price hike, for example. I got an email from Google last week telling me the price went up. That wasn't "quietly". "Quietly" would be raising the price completely unannounced and hoping no one notices.
So glad PipePipe and FreeTube are a thing
For now....
I would like to add an honourable mention to your list here: Kodi YouTube add-on. Somehow this is working for me again after being broken for ages. It's not the same (you need to use a Google account and API set-up) but no ads, auto play, recommend videos..
http://grayjay.app/ no Google accounts, no bullshit
Maybe because im a millennial but it's easier than ever to have all the music you could ever want downloaded and playing off local storage, idk i don't get it i guess it sucks listening to some online playlist and every few songs one is just stuff you'd never choose to listen to.
Funny, I'm a Gen X - and I have everything locally stored and with over 400 gb of music commercial free. -I could just put the whole thing on shuffle for the next few years. Still sometimes listen to ad supported Spotify tho as am used to radio.
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