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[–] 100 points 7 months ago (13 children)
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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Pihole does not stop youtube ads as they are served through youtube's domains. You need ublock or something like that.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Having everything connected to the router automatically get ad blocking is great.

    I do wish the pihole was easier to use. I don't think my parents would be up for manually updating it via SSH in a console.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    You can access the web client from any connected machine and do it from there.

    Also you can save the IP from the machine running it as a local DNS entry, something like pi.hole, so they can just type pi.hole/admin in the browser to access the dashboard

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, not having ads in the phone app, the TV app, the music app on the phone or in the browser is really nice, I love it. Also got that for all my friends and family.

    Never paid YouTube a dime though :)

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    [–] 44 points 7 months ago

    Never given YouTube a dime and never will

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    Revanced on mobile uBlock on firefox

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    I just do ublock on Firefox. do I need revanced?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I just use Firefox mobile with ublock to watch YouTube on mobile

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    May I show you the way of Revanced (Manager)?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I downloaded revanced at one point, may even still have it installed. I've just found that a shortcut to YouTube.com on my home screen has worked great and I haven't felt like changing. what makes revanced better?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    You can remove shorts, sponsor block built it, window player, background player, can change how the player works (double tap to seek, vol/brightness controls) enable/disable recommended embedded video links (tiles), can make video pause on notifications, sanitizes sharing links. There are 56 patches avail.

    Revanced can also be used to patch other software like spotify, reddit, twitch and facebook

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    I'm gonna pay you $0 to fuck off (with ublock)

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago* (10 children)

    Every single youtube channel needs to start seeding torrents of their videos, and posting those links to other platforms (here, mastodon, etc).

    Youtube / google could be defeated collectively if creators were to consistently do this, and interested people had the ability to help seed videos.

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    But a lot of YouTube channels get money through youtube

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Most of the channels I know ask for donations via patreon or other funding platforms. I don't think youtube pays much except for maybe the top 1% of slop channels.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    In most cases, not all that much. YouTube is mainly useful for getting views and building an audience. It’s a combination of revenue sources like sponsors, merchandise, donations, etc., that really make it worthwhile for creators.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I'm just so tired of the algorhythms. It's like being in a cage mentally.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    I go to my son's house, and start browsing through his streamers, and he's got all kinds of stuff I never see. They keep me boxed into the algorithm they've assigned to me, and wont let me see anything else, so I keep picking from their choices for me, which only locks me harder into their box.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I mean peer tube and similar exist. I think the majority of channels with over a 25k views, I don't think there's a consistant number anyone gets, but something like 100 bucks per 25k views or so is pretty common.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    We could just ban advertising.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    That's basically google's main business. Their business is not in web search, video platform, mobile OS, email or AI, it's ad. People forget Google is an ad company, that uses any tool available to give you ad. If it's free and not open source, you are the product. Either to sell your attention and availability to companies through ads, or to use your data to do profiling, build a more vicious ad platform and sell your data on the side.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    "Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket."

    The very definition of racketeering.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    I've said this a few times in various places, but I'm really surprised we aren't allowed to bid for ad space for ourselves to not show an ad the way advertisers do for ads. Obviously a flat monthly rate is simpler, nobody is denying that, but just from a purely "free market" perspective (which shareholders love to say they want while using the government to crush opposition) why can't I pay slightly more than whatever small amount of money someone is paying to show me an ad to not see the ad?

    Realistically I don't think we'll ever see that because it's a fairly complicated. I don't have any hard data, but I can't imagine that the majority of users using something like YouTube Premium are getting a "good deal." Sure, some folks probably watch all day every day and they get the better end of the deal, but I'd bet for a lot of folks YouTube makes more money off charging the subscription than they would showing the ads. Which is sort of an odd scenario we've gotten ourselves into (but amazing if you're a company that serves ads).

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That has to be built by all the people together

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Not necessarily, like if it was YouTube you'd just deposit money and maybe set a maximum amount of money you're willing to bid. Honestly most standard banner ads are from Google too, so they could handle that. For streaming services you'd need to set it up for each individually, but that's no different from setting up billing for each of them. They wouldn't need to talk to each other.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    Its a good idea but mentally people hate micro-transactions(transactions that are lower than 10cents) so they get mad every time its suggested. Plus its technically quite challenging to process those kind of transactions efficiently.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    You wouldn't prompt them every time. And it would be no more difficult than serving the ads which are also charging every time they're shown.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    No I wouldnt prompt them at all because the costs would be so low. Even if you paid 5x what an ad pays you'd spend less than a dollar or two a week. But people hate the idea of paying half a cent when visiting a website or watching a youtube video because they think they either shouldnt have to or that it will eventually become $2 to vist that blog and $4 to watch that video and thats a horrible future.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like you're not getting the vision. It would be the same process as subscribing, but money just gets drained from a pool per ad instead of a flat monthly fee. It's not something you're seeing a popup for. And it would never cost 5x what an ad costs. It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad. To put that in perspective, ad impressions are bought in units of cpm which stands for cost per mille which is the amount they pay for one thousand impressions. That would be $4,000 cpm. That's absolutely insane. That's orders of magnitude more than what it is today. Nobody is ever going to spend that much to show you an ad unless it's some crazy profitable, super targeted, ultra niche campaign.

    The whole point of this thought exercise is to explore what companies make in a month from ads versus what they charge for a month of ad free service. People bid for your attention. I think I should be able to bid for it myself instead of paying some opaque, flat rate per month.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad.

    I know I only say 5x to show just how cheap it would actually be to outbid advertisers.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Why is it a random picture of Will Ferrell though? Why are recent memes like this?

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    They call it a double-sided economy.

    I call it “let’s fuck everyone.”

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I don't pay anything. Just use newpipe/ublock/smarttube

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  • [+] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • The perfect crime.

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    What’s that have to do with Ricky Bobby?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Add to this that companies would prefer showing their ads to paying customers (who have some money to spend), not the free tier plebs

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Grayjay is great for YouTube too

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Why the fuck am I looking at a picture of Will Ferrell and not Ricky?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Storing and serving videos is expensive, they have to pay for it somehow. Either you pay directly or someone else pays for you (through an Ad). I don't see why this is inherently a problem.

    I can see arguments on if the specifics are a problem with how they're going about it, but the fundamentals make sense.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    It always feels like YouTube is double dipping though. Not with what the post is about; that's either/or, obviously.

    But Google makes a nice profit collecting user data and behavior, and then selling that to advertising companies. That happens regardless of using an adblocker, and I'd be shocked if it doesn't also happen regardless of YT premium.

    But at the same time, Google also IS an advertising company; they use their user data collection platform to also show ads to users, getting paid again.

    So personally, even if YT wasn't owned and operated by a shitstain of a capitalist eldritch horror company, I'd still have zero qualms blocking all their ads: they're making money off of me regardless.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Friend one day added me to his family plan because they had one space open. I'm still in the habit of always going to youtube in ways I can ad-block but am always pleasantly surprised when I go in the normal youtube app and I have no ads. I'll pay for the service though

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Kinda makes sense tho. Either they earn money on you from ads or they make money from you because of subscription. Or you're like me and you still block the ads even though YouTube does everything it can to stop you.

    I wouldn't really mind watching some ads before a video, but I don't wanna get constantly interrupted or have the ads track me everywhere. I tend to watch the in-video ads from creators tho, because most people I follow have relevant ads, funny ads, or ar the very least deserve some revenue.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    set your VPN to Albania

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Unwatched app for those on iOS

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  • [+] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Yes.
    I signed up with Google Play Music All Access in its two month intro way back when. At the time it was $7.99mo for life. They included YouTube Red when that launched. Now after all the name changes and price hikes, I'm still locked in at $7.99. I'll keep it as long as that lasts.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    That shit is real

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I'm playing both sides, but actually.

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  • [+] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)