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[+] 259 points 7 months ago (34 children)
  • [–] 128 points 7 months ago (30 children)

    Republicans had a choice. They chose to make things worse. They can't complain about laughing out of frustration or dark humor. Not after decades of sabotaging America so they could finally control USA.

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  • [+] 85 points 7 months ago (27 children)
  • [–] 49 points 7 months ago (26 children)

    I’m more concerned about the rest of the world having to deal with the consequences of moronic republican decisions.

    This is the worst part of it. I didn't vote for that moronic child fucker. I can't even vote in that shithole because I don't live there. Yet, I'm getting fucked, and roughly, because of them.

    But hey, 'don't go "all americans" because some of them didn't vote for him'. Well fuck you! You didn't vote for him, but what about us? Getting screwed by someone who's not even in our continent just because he fucked kids and don't want to go to jail for it?

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Oh but don't you know Kamala Harris wasn't a good enough candidate so some Americans couldn't bring themselves to vote for her. 

    Fuck those guys even more than MAGA. 

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago

    Absolutely. Anyone who was eligible to vote in the US that didn’t vote for Kamala Harris come the general election is part of the reason we have Trump. These are objective facts at this point.

    “But Gaza!”, “both sides”, “NeoLiberals”, etc. are all flimsy excuses.

    You want progressives to have a chance of winning? Make the Republican Party lose so badly that they aren’t contenders ever again. Now you can start to differentiate within the Democrat party to get some true progressives.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Nah, it's worse. Every voter that didn't vote in those elections just said: "I'm ok with both candidates". They have decided that choosing Harris or PedoHitler was the same thing. Is not that she wasn't "good enough", it's that they said she was AS GOOD AS PEDOHITLER.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Some of them are still at it. A mere mention of choosing between lesser evil and they come in calling us 'genocide supporters'. 

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    No shit thats why its the lesser of two evils ffs....its about mimizing damage since there is not an option to fix everything all at once. Fixing cultural stigmas takes time and so does dealing with elections cycles to change out who is in office. Creating a power vacuum from a coupe or insurrection just opens the doors for even worse actors to stroll on in. Life is not a fairytale where you can just wish something into being, it takes small incremental steps to achieve lasting progress.

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  • [+] 16 points 7 months ago (18 children)
  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    I wasn’t even old enough to vote against him the first time he ran. I did my best to convince all my historically conservative Republican family to not vote for him, however the propaganda they consume is too strong to get to them. My mother has been watching Fox News chronically since 1997 when it first aired. By 2016, she’d been consuming that propaganda straight for damn near 20 years!!!

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    The problem is the vast majority of Americans can’t monetarily afford to protest because of the style of capitalism here. It forces us to work or be homeless/healthcareless. Only thing that will force change is either a fair election (ain’t going to happen), some sort of coup, or country-wide strike (would be one I would like to participate in).

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  • [+] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    Protests are happening nearly daily, but they don't always make the news and frequently aren't covered extensively. It's not in the best interest of "news" organizations to focus on such things right now.

    Even social media coverage of these things are localized and not prioritized on algorithms.

    These things are happening. People are participating in the political process that is available to them where they can.

    Could we do more? Certainly. The international criticism is valid and many Americans feel your frustration and share it. Just know that the current political atmosphere took decades to establish and much of that work involved, if not outright criminalizing protest, framing them in such a way that reduces their visibility and overall impact, specifically in regards to their voter base. There is no "national conversation" like there was when there were 5 major TV stations and some assumed or even enforced journalistic integrity (however naive that may have been at the time). Now we are in a splintered information landscape that gives people the sense that they are contributing by interacting within their bubbles with little to no actual influence or conversations happening between people who disagree that might be able to find common ground and pool their efforts. Instead, when those groups finally contact each other they are yelling slogans at each other, not coming together to work towards a solution and how to move forward.

    Unfortunately our best path forward is the same slow grind that is the election cycle and finding ways to get through to those who don't want to believe they were mislead.

    High gas prices are probably the most effective way to snap people out of those bubbles, if only for a moment.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The largest issue is us Americans are hyper individualistic and hate working together in the way you describe. Just ain’t going to happen here unless the culture changes.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Why don't you be a little more honest here? You can't write "I'll be laughing at what happens to Americans for a long time" and then also say you feel for us. You're victim blaming. We are entirely fucked and there are no good options. And honestly, no matter where you live you're going to have negative consequences from this too, no matter what. Even if it just slightly nudges your country to the right, or some other neighboring country, it will impact you.

    So I'm glad you're laughing that so many millions of people are suffering. Thanks for that. It's so helpful to not only my mental health to read shit like this, it totally inspires me to just go out and fix it all. No problem. Be done by mid day tomorrow!

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  • [+] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I'm a miserable misanthrope asshole.

    I guess at least you know it, but that doesn't materially improve anything for the people who have to endure you.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    The reality is that the more the regime fucks up, the sooner it becomes a lame duck and the less damage it can do. Something, something, darkest before dawn, only way out is through etc.

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  • [–] 386 points 7 months ago* (44 children)
    • Mar 3: "We won the war."
    • Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
    • Mar 9: "We must attack Iran."
    • Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
    • Mar 11: “You never like to say too early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.”
    • Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
    • Mar 13: "We won the war."
    • Mar 14: "Please help us."
    • Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
    • Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all."
    • Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me."
    • Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
    • Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help."
    • Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
    • Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
    • Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz."
    • Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
    • Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
    • Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait"
    • Mar 22: "Iran is Dead"
    • Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran."
    • Mar 24: "We’re making progress."
    • Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.”
    • Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away."
    • Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO."
    • Mar 28: No major quote
    • Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing
    • Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences."
    • Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing"
    • Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon."
    • Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not
    • Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen."
    • Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences. "Tuesday 8 PM ET".
    • Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."
    • Apr 6: "We can bomb the hell out of them"
    • Apr 7: "A whole civilization will die tonight"
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  • [–] 110 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 70 points 7 months ago* (10 children)

    I like your post. 50 years from now, high school students are going to open their US History book and read what the orange bumble fuck said during a war he started. Humiliating and perhaps the Americans might learn a lesson from the MAGA disaster.

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    If americans could learn we wouldn't have a 2nd trump presidency. We're on average stupider than bart with the cupcakes.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This combination of generations is lost. Most of the age groups are either pushing for things to get worse, ignoring things that are bad or rooting on the coming apocalypse. It'll get better when we get a few more new gens in the game, asuming it can be recovered

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's all just inequality dressed up as something else. People are miserable here because it's a country by and for rich people which even the rich don't enjoy in the end. Rich people exploit that sense of misery to give us...king-size diaper donny as president twice.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Not that long ago, a single factory worker made enough to buy a small house, a car, have 2 kids and take a 2 week yearly vacation.

    We're really pumping the gas on inequity.

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  • [+] 13 points 7 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    If you think your government isn't lying to you... I have some news

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    That's the thing I was wondering about the TACO meme. Is it good to mock him on chickening out when it is best for everybody that he does chicken out?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Does it matter? I think he doesn't even touch the internet anymore and just has an assistant posting for him

    On the contrary, I think everyone in the White House keeps feeding him pleasant lies and what's why he can go out in public and say all that BS

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    He's the biggest fucking dumbass in the universe.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I swear we live in the dumbest timeline. Can we switch back to pre-Covid timeline before Trump?

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    That... was Trump too.youre looking for pre 2017.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Honestly Trump 2017-2019 doesn't even seem that bad anymore...

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    This should be the front page of a wiki, so others can add citations and readers can drill down. But it should absolutely preserve this level of summary. It was highly effective at putting the arc into perspective without embellishment. I might recommend reframing the entries for March 28, 29, 31 and April 2, 4 as summaried utterances instead, as I found the switch to an overtly editorial summary to be jarring.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    I copied it from elsewhere - but I love your idea! Someone should definitely catalog and archive this

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    If I decide to build that, who would the attribution need to go to? eg: who is your genius tier source

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  • [–] 99 points 7 months ago (16 children)

    The US had a perfectly good nuclear deal with Iran, but Trump chose to rip it up nine years ago because it had Obama's name on it.

    Should come to no surprise that Iran don't want to end this crisis diplomatically with the same guy who stabbed them in the back just to spite the Democrats...

    Trump sparked anger and concern around the globe on Tuesday morning with his post, which read, “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!”

    I've not read the full wording of his Truth Social post until now, but why does it read like he's trying to cut a wrestling promo?

    I mean his description of the US airman rescue operation in yesterday's press conference where he called the Iranian army a "hostile, very talented, very good, very evil military" was giving me Danhausen vibes...

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

    The US had a perfectly good deal. Israel didn't. If the deal had stayed in place, the Iranian econony would have roughly doubled by now. That's a lot more resources that could stay in Israel's way of expanding into Lebanon for example.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (10 children)

    The deal benefited Israel as well... what are you talking about!?

    What the deal did not include was: praise for the orange pedophile and/or distraction for his crimes or Bibi's

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    Did an edit to add that before I saw your reply. Don't buy what Israel tells you about how they love the Iranian people. Consider Israel's material interests.

    E: Also it's fairly public fact that Israel lobbied against the deal and following it lobbied for repeal.

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  • [+] -9 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Consider Israel’s material interests.

    Hmmmm how about no... Israel had a chance but decided to become the new Nazis... they can go fuck themselves back to the stone age for all I care

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    "consider" as in "you won't understand why Israel does what it does unless you think about", it doesn't mean "give them what they want"

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago

    yes, I understood... but again, this is the slippery slope where "the best move" is justified regardless how heartless and immoral it may be

    My point is I do not care what Israel had to win by this. This is wrong and they should pay dearly for their crimes against humanity

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I only meant for analysis sake 😅

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  • [+] -8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Yes but this is the slippery slope that can justify any and all atrocities...

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    There is a difference between "justify" and "explain." He's not saying what happened is OK, he's explaining why some people were motivated to ruin what most purple thought of as a good thing.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    There is a difference between “justify” and “explain.”

    Again I UNDERSTOOD... but this is a slippery slope, "explaining" why "it makes sense" to commit genocide is too close to the SLIPPERY SLOPE I am complaining about

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You keep saying "I understand" and then displaying that you don't understand.

    I mean, I can explain why Grand Moff Tarken blew up Alderaan. I understand why he chose to do that. There is no slippery slope from there to "it's ok to blow up planets."

    It is crucial that you understand the motivations of your enemy, and understand why he makes the decisions he does. You aren't going to defeat him by guesswork.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago

    What part makes you think I do not understand?

    There is no slippery slope from there to “it’s ok to blow up planets.”

    Absolutely there is... go into ANY forum on US politics and you'll find the most immoral decisions labeled as "it was their best move"... if you go further you'll see those turned into "they'd be stupid not to do it"... and so forth

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    "we don't negotiate with terrorists"

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