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[–] 99 points 7 months ago (16 children)

The US had a perfectly good nuclear deal with Iran, but Trump chose to rip it up nine years ago because it had Obama's name on it.

Should come to no surprise that Iran don't want to end this crisis diplomatically with the same guy who stabbed them in the back just to spite the Democrats...

Trump sparked anger and concern around the globe on Tuesday morning with his post, which read, “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!”

I've not read the full wording of his Truth Social post until now, but why does it read like he's trying to cut a wrestling promo?

I mean his description of the US airman rescue operation in yesterday's press conference where he called the Iranian army a "hostile, very talented, very good, very evil military" was giving me Danhausen vibes...

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

    The US had a perfectly good deal. Israel didn't. If the deal had stayed in place, the Iranian econony would have roughly doubled by now. That's a lot more resources that could stay in Israel's way of expanding into Lebanon for example.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (10 children)

    The deal benefited Israel as well... what are you talking about!?

    What the deal did not include was: praise for the orange pedophile and/or distraction for his crimes or Bibi's

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    Did an edit to add that before I saw your reply. Don't buy what Israel tells you about how they love the Iranian people. Consider Israel's material interests.

    E: Also it's fairly public fact that Israel lobbied against the deal and following it lobbied for repeal.

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  • [+] -9 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Consider Israel’s material interests.

    Hmmmm how about no... Israel had a chance but decided to become the new Nazis... they can go fuck themselves back to the stone age for all I care

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    "consider" as in "you won't understand why Israel does what it does unless you think about", it doesn't mean "give them what they want"

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago

    yes, I understood... but again, this is the slippery slope where "the best move" is justified regardless how heartless and immoral it may be

    My point is I do not care what Israel had to win by this. This is wrong and they should pay dearly for their crimes against humanity

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I only meant for analysis sake 😅

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  • [+] -8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Yes but this is the slippery slope that can justify any and all atrocities...

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    There is a difference between "justify" and "explain." He's not saying what happened is OK, he's explaining why some people were motivated to ruin what most purple thought of as a good thing.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    There is a difference between “justify” and “explain.”

    Again I UNDERSTOOD... but this is a slippery slope, "explaining" why "it makes sense" to commit genocide is too close to the SLIPPERY SLOPE I am complaining about

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You keep saying "I understand" and then displaying that you don't understand.

    I mean, I can explain why Grand Moff Tarken blew up Alderaan. I understand why he chose to do that. There is no slippery slope from there to "it's ok to blow up planets."

    It is crucial that you understand the motivations of your enemy, and understand why he makes the decisions he does. You aren't going to defeat him by guesswork.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago

    What part makes you think I do not understand?

    There is no slippery slope from there to “it’s ok to blow up planets.”

    Absolutely there is... go into ANY forum on US politics and you'll find the most immoral decisions labeled as "it was their best move"... if you go further you'll see those turned into "they'd be stupid not to do it"... and so forth

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