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[–] 177 points 7 months ago* (11 children)

Yeah, no. Segregation magically ending in 1954? The Civil Rights struggles of the 60s didn't happen? Redlining and Ghettoizing of Black communities? Destruction of Black families by mass incarceration of Black males and forcing families to stay apart to collect benefits, while vilifying single Black mothers as "welfare queens"? We have never, ever been in the green.

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  • [–] 75 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Even slavery is still around.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Hell, there were (are still?) segregated schools up until around 2000. I know at least one wasn't set to desegregate until sometime in the 90s.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I remember reading about a segregated prom in like 2013

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    bay area, california, and folk use religion as their segregator. if they want to be surrounded by all white people they pick a religion/cult that has only white people going to it. have their kids go to their youth group, do their polyarhythmiac jazz prom, go to their halloween harvest dinner/chili cookoff and kick all their bland white bean turkey chili bell peppers too spicy asses, sorry i had a point somewhere but i remembered some ptsfuckingd chili and that shit does things to you. like, i don't think my great/grand/parents joined the cults they joined because they were racists, i think they joined because they were lonely and being racist was something people didn't end relationships over. you end relationships over white grandma turkey chili that's got no spice in it oh your god cassie. or your sister cassie's god it doesn't matter. drop an ancho and a bar of chocolate in it and pretend just don't please gods please don't enter it in the contest again i'm not tasting it if i'm a judge.

    don't join cults kids, you might end up eating some nasty fucking ass chili do your worst hyphen clown asses

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    The further north you go the more segregated it gets and still is today. But we never think of the northern states as segregated.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The northern states aren't really segregated, we just have like 99% white people.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    This is not true. Northern cities are still extremely segregated. We say it's because of economics now, but it's effectively segregation. The underlying causes of the economic disperity largely remain in place also.

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago

    while vilifying single Black mothers as “welfare queens”?

    You forgot the "best" part: poor people renting apartments end up subsidizing wealthier people living in single-family homes, because suburban sprawl doesn't generate enough tax revenue per acre to fund the infrastructure and services it consumes. The white middle-class bigots doing the vilifying are, themselves, the real welfare queens!

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  • [–] 97 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    What is the US prison system but slavery with extra steps?

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  • [–] 54 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    there aren't even really extra steps considering slavery is perfectly legal in prisons according to the constitution

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    It seems like less steps: consolidate the whole racket, let the state enforce and pay for it, and let the enslavers continue to profit.

    This seems much easier and more reliable than the prior decentralized system of private enslavers.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The civil rights act is from 1964, so even shorter time than the picture shows.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    And after that, VRA, loving vs Virginia, fair housing act. Ending segregation was a gradual process that, by many metrics, still isn’t complete, but any date before 1964 or 1968 is a big fat lie.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Its worse than that slavery against native Americans was earlier even if we only count territory that would be in the united states eventually and only by Europeans and their descendants, and the last person sold as a slave and the "owner" not being sentenced to life without parole was in world war 2.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    There were news stories as recent as 2012 about schools in the south being segregated. There are still sundown towns. Segregation only ended on paper.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago

    If you count incarceration

    We do. It is specifically and explicitly an exception in the US Constitution:

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago

    Well, American slavery never actually ended, we just call.it prison labor now. Segregation only really ended on paper. It's become less prominent I guess, but it's not gone.

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  • [–] 62 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    The yellow should be orange and the green should be yellow and labeled "carcereal slavery"

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    Remember that some places were forced to desegregate in the 1990s.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    What’s special about 1619 to be considered the start of American slavery?

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago*

    It was when enslaved African people were first brought to Jamestown. Exactly when the start is more broadly is kind of harder to say since some things are more disputed

    The arrival of the first captives to the Jamestown Colony, in 1619, is often seen as the beginning of slavery in America—but enslaved Africans arrived in North America as early as the 1500s.

    https://www.history.com/articles/american-slavery-before-jamestown-1619

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    Primus~ "Welp, no more slaves unless they are serving time in prison. It's a bummer."

    Secundus~ "Well, let's put them in prison."

    Primus~ "BRILLIANT"

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    The green section is still racism but without legal mechanisms.

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  • Green is incarceration and wage slavery

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago* (6 children)

    Not every white person had a house either, and if they didnt then their family ended up losing a lot of compound growth, and ended up poorer as they payed somebody elses mortgage. What really happened I think is the lack of class mobility due to the financialization of everything, due to unlimited money printing and corporate bailouts.

    The average mortgage was 7 years historically and somebody saving a ton could pay it off in under 5 years, instead of the massive 30 year loans backed by the govenment we have now. Its like as we got richer and more productive we simultaneously became poorer and can barely house ourselves, as food quality got cheaper with shrinkflation and industrialization.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    I really don't where this influx of mispelling misspelling paid as payed over the last few years has come from, but it seems to be becoming more and more common.

    For what it's worth, "payed" is a very old nautical term that means to spread tar on the deck of a ship.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I really don’t where this influx of mispelling

    I really don't either. And it's misspelling. Cuz you know...

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Hah. I looked at that word, then wrote it with a double s, looked at it again and it looked wrong, so I went back to one.

    But now that I see it posted, the single s looks very wrong indeed.

    D'oh.

    Also, any post on the internet about someone else's spelling mistakes will inevitably contain at least one spelling error itself, so I'm just maintaining the universal rules ;)

    In your case, I suppose it's "cuz"

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    over the last few years

    There's no way this is just in the last few years, unless you mean like 20-30 years or so (along with the rest of the common misspellings you can find on the internet versus edited printed material). Also the meaning isn't just spreading a waterproof coating, but also to let out line or rope.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Redlining went through to the 70s

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Slavery is still legal in the US as per the 13th amendment.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Weird diagram. Why are we starting at 1619 in Virginia when it would be just as fair to say 1493 in Puerto Rico (or similar when you include Florida or parts annexed from Mexico). And the end of segregation is wrong as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Each time I see this I notice that it's always lacking the end of redlining.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Not to split hairs on moral grounds, but shouldnt it be english slavery up until at least the revolutionary war started?

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    While the Brits outlawed slavery around 1830s for themselves, they had no problem loading slaves onto their ships and smuggling them to the Americas for a good while after. Plus they openly supported the Confederacy throughout the Civil War to keep the cotton rolling in. And of course we don't need to mention colonialism that lasted until after WW2 now, do we? Of course the French, Dutch, Spanish, and Germans also colonized every inch of some else's dirt to exploit them back to the Stone Age. And there was little hesitation to kill any and all that objected the "civilizing" effect of European influence.

    And slavery is ongoing even as we speak in certain parts of this world. But we do nothing and care little about that. As long as they keep it on the down low we need not be overly concerned.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Why is the timeline curved?

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    [–] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Did slavery actually end? i mean you work 9-5 sometimes with unpaid overtime, you get unpaid PTO, you don't get any health insurance, you don't have enough to save something for retirement and you live paycheck to paycheck so it's slavery embellished with being called "work".

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Is this that weird credit score indicator thingy that people post every once in a while?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child)

    --> 1619.

    Nobody goning to talk about that date? Lol

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    why tf is this an accelerometer?

    "This bad boy goes from slavery to incarceration in 2.3 seconds"

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    And let's not forget "... WiTH aLl DeLiBErATe sPeEd!"

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    And dwelled on.

    And what happened before that too, for how long, and then before that for how long.

    Good job, colonialism. /s

    But no, seriously, good job civil rights campaigns. We're not done yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Technically it was British slavery for about half of that red span.

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago*

    If you think prison is equivalent to slavery, corporate needs to to find the difference between this picture and this picture

    I know people are arguing in good faith and want prison reform. However, slavery apologists have captured this argument to minimize the suffering under chattel slavery. (no worse than going to prison) They also argue that the 13th is "white slavery" because half of all prisoners are white. If your the kind of person who understands the difference between an indentured servant and an enslaved person, then you need to understand that a prisoner, even one forced to work under the 13th, is a third thing.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Since when was 2000 onward the pinnacle of equality? This image is dog shit

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)
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