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[–] 99 points 7 months ago (13 children)

No work is getting done there. They’re pretending it does.

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  • [–] 83 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    As opposed to the office where I’m definitely not doing just enough to not get fired

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Turns out as long as you have your browser and inbox open and frown at your screen when your boss walks by, most people won’t question it any further

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Bonus points if the browser has loaded a webpage, preferably one showing graphs that automagically update?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Executives fuckin love a dashboard

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    As someone who builds a ton of dashboards for executives they absolutely do! It's also very obvious when an executive finally gets replaced who hasn't been pulling their weight because I'll suddenly learn that 3 of the dashboards we made for them have been broken for multiple years without anyone noticing

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  • [–] 64 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    If I’m ever envious of someone doing work in places where they should be relaxing, please kill me.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    You must be someone who hates working from home, because home is the place where we should all feel relaxed, right? What about working in the garden? The garden is certainly a relaxation spot, but god forbid you get some rays of sunshine while you work.

    I understand the desire to pity people who work at the beach. But then again, I pity anyone who ended up living near Silicon Valley. Think of all the money though!

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago*

    That’s one extreme way to take the comment, I guess. I worked from home for a while and I think these return to office orders are stupid as hell, largely because going to the office needs unpaid commuting time, annoyances related to needing to bring a lunch, and it takes away your ability to do small chores and stuff during the work day that might be often impossible during the evening for one reason or another.

    Look, if you want to work at the beach or whatever then go for it, but the idea that California is the “envy of nations” because people can do labour at a beach is insanity.

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  • [+] 128 points 7 months ago (13 children)
  • [+] -14 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    Not if you’re using a macbook…

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  • [+] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Laptops and screens can be pretty efficient. I got a pretty cheap run of the mill one (Arch btw) that easily does >8 hours at full blast HDR and no power saving.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I gotta add to this the app Brightintosh. It kicks up the screen brightness to the actual max brightness of the screen so a good 2x brighter. Major dif using in bright environments, less screen life and color accuracy theoretically

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    What does an eink screen have to do with anything? I work outside in a hammock during the summer on my mac and never have to bring it in to charge once, unless I forgot to the day before. That’s with running heavy applications like Jetbrains IDEs or Lightroom.

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  • [–] 48 points 7 months ago

    Sun glare, sand, bad WiFi… yeah, it looks better than it feels 😭

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  • [–] 44 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Toshiba used to sell a laptop (IIRC the model name was R500) back in like 2008 that had a mirror behind the screen, meaning that bright sunlight would be reflected back through the LCD and always respond to external lighting conditions no matter how bright. The image quality and color was shitty, but you could use it in the sun. Battery time was also extremely impressive.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    The same thing would work with e-ink. It works fine in super bright sunlight. Unfortunately since it physically spins little balls with electromagnets the refresh rate is very slow compared to conventional screens.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Even just being in public. I tried it for one day at Panera while I was writing a professional review. People kept coming up to talk to me, I couldn’t tune the noise out, and I was uncomfortable in their wood chairs.

    I’m convinced those suits in Starbucks are just trawling for chicks.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    People kept coming up to talk to me [at Panera]

    This is just...unimaginable to me. Who goes up to strangers at a chain restaurant? Especially one who is clearly busy? Unless you mean employees, which would be a bit more understandable, though still weird.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It was a lot of old people just being social on a Tuesday. I didn’t mind that so much, reasonably sane old people should be cherished. My brain just isn’t wired for distractions.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I go traveling with the sales guys sometimes, and we had Starbucks in between meetings so that we can sit down and do email for an hour and then go to the next meeting. I wouldn't want to sit there all day.

    I work from home and I never get to the point where I want to go out in public and do work. I do get to the point where I want to go on public, but I take a walk and get some sun and I don't bring my laptop.

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    How do you even read the screen in broad daylight?

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I work outside all the time. It’s great. Use my laptop on the screened in porch. In the shade. Ceiling fan on. Maybe in the hammock. Doing whatever I want on the laptop while jiggler keeps my work laptop active in another room.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    For those who can't install much on their work laptop: just open notepad and put a weight on the space bar

    Bonus point: you can see how long you've been away by looking at the character count, and try to beat high scores on slow days

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  • [–] 63 points 7 months ago (39 children)

    Being on your laptop outside is a miserable experience

    ftfy

    As a lifelong desktop PC user, laptops just feel claustrophobic 😅 Especially sucks without a mouse, fuck the trackpad.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    I think it's an excellent compromise for being a portable PC. If I'm going to university, to a study space or a lecture, a laptop is freaking fantastic.

    Also all laptops universally have one killer feature that nearly no desktop PC has: a built-in UPS. If power goes out, the laptop just keeps chugging along on battery power, giving you an extra few hours of work.

    It's not my workstation of choice by any means, but I wouldn't call it miserable. It's fine.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    Bro, people today prefer trackpad. Its fucking mindblowing. Ive met several IRL people that love trackpads and don't own a mouse.

    I almost guarantee I'm 10x faster at anything on a PC than them

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I have fond memories of my Macbook Pro's touchpad. That was over a decade ago, I still haven't found a comparable experience.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    I prefer a trackpad while I work, and the reason is simple: Much less movement to switch from trackpad to keyboard than from mouse to keyboard. And much easier to land on the key you want without looking.

    And I very much doubt you'd be faster than me with a mouse!

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Trackpads give me handcramps very fast. Also if Trackpads were faster, gamers would use them.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    A gamer does not need to switch from the mouse to the keyboard repeatedly. Plus, a gamer cares about precision, which obviously a trackpad lacks.

    "Faster" standalone means nothing. Can you move the pointer faster with a mouse? Of course. But I don't see most people flicking on their workstation.

    In the context of this thread, "faster" refers to completing your tasks faster. And for that a trackpad beats a mouse if your job requires you to type a lot.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    The point of trackpads (and even more so of trackpoints) is that they're faster to get to from typing position - you move your hand back a bit (or even just the index finger) instead of moving across the whole keyboard. That's not something that would go high on the checklist when gaming - it's usually one hand planted on WASD, the other on the mouse and hardly any going back and forth.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I've stopped caring about being fast. In fact I'm certain my current setup is slower, more comfortable, and funner than any I've enjoyed before.

    If you feel good and you're enjoying your setup then that's what matters.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I don't own a mouse. I like the trackpad because I'm left handed and a mouse always felt weird to me left handed because schools in the 90s forced me to use it right handed.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    So, uhh, are you good and comfortable at using the mouse with your right hand? If so you have no reason to use your left. I have a left-handed friend who has always exclusivity used his right for the mouse. Ain't no law saying your mouse hand must be your writing hand. Not to mention the benefits: it's the default setting on any system, and there are lots of great quality asymmetric mouses that only fit the right hand.

    I'm not trying to change you, by all means if you like the trackpad more power to you. Just curious why you'd try to mouse with your left if you've already learned to use it with your right.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I work on industrial production lines. I've gotten used enough to laptops that I don't mind too much.

    Work from home on my 34" curved screen + 27" flat is amazing tho.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I use a tiling window manager and copious number of workspaces. It helps with the feeling of claustrophobia if anything can be easily full-screened and swapped around easily.

    A 64" monitor with floating windows now feels clunky to me compared to a 15" screen with tiling set up like I like it

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Amazingly, there is this nifty thing called a “port” that allows a mouse to be plugged into a laptop. It is pretty incredible technology. /s

    Yes, I meant that it's even worse when there's no mouse plugged in, but I guess my phrasing wasn't clear :)

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Well, these guys aren't working, as far as I'm concerned, if they can do it without bringing out a mouse and real keyboard and probably a second monitor. (My laptop bag is pretty heavy.) They can at best be checking emails.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Agreed.

    If you can do your work on a 13" laptop with no mouse or external monitor without your productivity dropping off a cliff, you were never productive to begin with.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I disagree on the external monitor, not everyone need one or they are just used to using it, also how the OS is scaled matter too

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, tbh I'm fine working as a graphic designer on my single 24-inch screen, not sure what I'd put on another one.

    Though I imagine it might be useful when gaming to put a guide or spreadsheet on a smaller, vertical screen.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I have a monstrous satellite l300 i use for light spec work and arduino programming. 17" screen. It does not feel claustrophobic in the slightest, unlike my latest gen dell work machine with a screen smaller than my first fucking 486 i need glasses to even see. where did we go so wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    I do most things on my laptop mouseless, or that is, trackpadless. It's the best feeling ever. I seriously recommend it to anyone.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Behold! E-paper laptops! You can read them outside!

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I recently discovered this thing called books that also works great outside. And it’s a lot more fun than laptop work!

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    But isn't that expensive since each page is pay per? Pay per page! That's gonna rack up some dough. Although I did go to goodwill today and they had some really inexpensive Wikipedia/website-like things on their shelves. I picked one up from the cooking isle and it had lots of pictures and text on pay per. But it was cheap like 5 bucks.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    This is like the idea of having sex on the beach. Who really wants that. You didn't think it through if you want that. Do you really want to invite sand and salmonella to the mix?

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Full sun and sunglasses? There's no way the guy on the left can see shit on his screen.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago*

    The bit about people bringing their laptops to the beach smells like RTO propaganda

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