Damn kind of thought this would be an uplifting post.

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[–] 123 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Nationalism tells you your nation is what to be proud of, but that's dangerous and manipulative.

Instead, focus on the people. You can be proud of the people who are protesting, people who are running secret grocery runs for people hiding from ICE, people promoting progressive or scientific thought in threatened educational spaces, and so on.

There are still plenty of us left in the US, some against our will, and you can still be proud of them for still trying when so many others have given up.

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  • [–] 79 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    There are several websites about current good news, some of which is happening in this country right now.

    Here's a simple one:

    In October 2025, following pressure from United States Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Texas Governor Greg Abbott ordered cities across the state to remove LGBTQ+ Pride crosswalks and other road markings that “advance political agendas” and “ideologies.”

    Abbott cited safety concerns and violation of state and federal guidelines as reasons to invoke the measure, which required cities to comply within 30 days or risk losing transportation funding.

    ...

    But, in the meantime, the new, colorful sidewalks do not violate any local regulations, and Kaur and McKee-Rodriguez hope they signal an ongoing commitment to LGBTQ+ Pride in San Antonio.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago

    When the Idaho legislature banned Pride flags on public property to punish the City of Boise for flying one at city hall, the mayor and city council adopted the Pride flag as the official city flag. Best part, city hall is two blocks away from the state capitol building, so the bigoted fucks get a nice view of it when they’re at work 😊

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    This is actually one I didn’t know about. A small gesture, but a pleasant one. Of course the only story that made the front page was the one that sparked outrage when it was originally removed.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Hi. Random straight guy here.

    looks at picture

    ......not sure why anyone would have an issue with this.

    I'm more confused/concerned why there's a series of traffic cones turning a 2 lane road into a 1 lane road without any obvious reason why.

    Also, holy shit! That's a lot of random solar panels! Someone call that phone number, and ask them what they power.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The old design has the rainbow across the crosswalk, which actually does go against traffic safety standards, so the reason for it gaining the attention to get removed may not have been valid, but the actual removal reason was. And to show faith, they just redesigned it to meet standards. Here’s the original design:

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Never saw this aerial view before neat! Tbh I do like the side walk more tho. The street one i find quite distracting/disorienting. And a crosswalk isn't where I want to invite distractions.

    The flag switch is badass.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Wait, what safety features are unmet? The white lines are the borders of the crosswalk, and the half white line is the stop line for traffic at the intersection.

    What's it missing?

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago*

    Wow, that flew under the radar. An entire city that has solved poverty, crime, health issues and homelessness to the extent they can spend time and money on this performative bullshit. At least the city lawyers will eat well.

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    MLK jr and the civil rights movement are just as much a part of America as Jim Crow and slavery. ICE is America but so is every protester fighting it. Lincoln is America. The KKK is America. Trump is America. Luigi is America.

    The thing about people is we like to make things simple and put things in a box, and not have exceptions. But that's almost never true, and the US is a land of contradictions. We're very good people, and we're very bad people.

    So yeah, it's going down the drain, but it's always been going down the drain. It's also going to get better, and it always has, little by little. Hopefully we can weather this storm and rebuild.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I like how you make your point, but the soft power of the US is over. As pointed out by others, the current administration is a sympthom, not an aberration.

    US may have military primacy and the reserve currency, but neither can restore the loss of the appeal it had between post-ww2 and 2020. When tourists get deported after months of incarceration and we see videos of masked federal goons shooting people in the face, that is something else. When allying with the US gets you humiliation, threats, or even missle and drone attacks, that just does not seems like the smart move. So, respectfully, with friends like the US who needs enemies?

    Wishing you best of luck getting your country back tough.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    This has always been my point when people say "back in the good ol days" or "Make America great again" or any other nonsense about how it used to be better.... this is pretty much the best it has ever been! Even with the dipshit in office at the moment, it has pretty much always been greedy dipshits in control.... we are raising the best generation to date in terms of nutrition being provided, the most inclusive in terms of race/gender/sexual preference.... all we can do is hope we continue to make gradual improvement. People have always sucked. The elite have always raped and pillaged the poor.... but there is less of that now than any time in history..... slavery and depravity have been a part of history since we started recording history. I just cross my fingers and try to enlighten the young in my field of influence to be good humans and hope that some day we might not be as horrible as we have always been.

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I think it's easier to find success stories if you ask this question about your town than your country.

    A few weeks ago I took my kid to a parking lot by a park so he could practice biking, and when we got there there were nearly a dozen kids biking, and a band was playing etherial middle eastern music next to us to a crowd as the full moon hung over a lake draped in light of the setting sun.

    It was gorgeous, and free, both financially and in spirit. It was a beautiful appreciation of people and art from across the world. I thought for a moment that it was a picture of what I'd like America to one day be, then realized that I was in America, and it was already a picture of what America IS. It's unfortunate that America is also many terrible other things. But America is also this. And that spirit is what brought these musicians or their parents to America, and eventually to that parking lot by the lake under the full moon.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This scene could be the opening paragraphs for a new Stephen King novel.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I was recently at a Maya city on a tour. The Maya gave up on their cities and the citizens abandoned them. It makes me wonder if that can happen here, the abandonment of the ruling class.

    There are more Maya now than there were at contact.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I would probably say your movie and tv show industry, im not going to comment on the the actual conditions for writers, actors, people who work in the industry (out of my expertise), the output is pretty amazing. No other country has produces the sheer content and quality of media you do.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    The protests in Oregon and Minnesota show that we are still America despite the MAGA separatists attempt to destroy us. And although this current chapter sucks hardcore, we now see our neighbors and "friends" for what they really are.

    The separatists really thought they could just steamroll us. But, it didn't go according to plan. We also scare the whole cabinet enough that they are living on military bases because they literally fear for their lives.

    MAGA is eating itself alive which is the only outcome of a movement based entirely on hatred and destruction. So, we are showing our resolve. That's the undercurrent that shows we still have some good left in us.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    This is pretty big. It's better to know your enemy than have them lurking in the shadows. They are loud and proud right now and we won't forget that shit in 3 years. Your orange god won't be in power forever and then what are you going to do for the rest of your life?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The pessimist in me says the same thing that happened for many Confederates and Nazis: Forgiven and allowed to return into the folds of society, to fuck over humanity again.

    I would like to be wrong. It is my desire to see them overflowing baskets and filling cardboard caskets.

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  • [–] 47 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Some people love their country like a child loves their parent. Uncritical. They can do no wrong and are the best ever. Don't be like that.

    Some people love their like like a peer loves a peer. You see their flaws and want them to be the best they can be. Be like that, even when it's uncomfortable and difficult.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    For me its like loving a relative who is a writhing hateful shell of what they used to be. Think Alzheimer's or something.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago

    It's very easy to disparage a nation state due to the actions of their government and forget that there are good people everywhere that are well intentioned and trying to do the right thing. The No Kings protest movement is a good example of that. Building solidarity movements with humane values is the way we change society for the better.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    The US consistently ranks among the most charitable countries in the world, being #1 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2019.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Well, they have to for lack of a welfare state. It really isn't much to brag about. Charity is a bandaid, which doesn't solve the structural issues the same way that a welfare state does.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    I’m looking forward to 2026 statistics after the removal of USAID.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    USAID wasn't charity though was it? I believe it was taxpayer funded.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    You should be proud to be human.

    Not to be born within some imaginary line drawn on a map, in an area that later got "cleaned" as much as possible of everyone else not speaking the same language or worshipping the same god.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Pride comes with accomplishment.

    Being human, being American, being male, being white, these are all accidents of birth. There's no reason to take pride in any of it.

    Bring born in to a disaffected class of people, being gay, or a person of color, and overcoming that adversity to any measure of success, that merits some pride.

    But just being human? Anybody can do that.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I understand but I think we call pride also the sense of belonging to a chain of individuals that achieved growth of knowledge, rights, scientific discoveries and engineering results.

    It is a meaning of the word that would easily lend itself to manipulation but also one that allowed individuals to contribute and to stand on the shoulders of giants.

    In that sense, the highest level one would easily be being human.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Being American isn't necessarily an accident of birth.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago*

    Almost everything about the situation you were born in to is an accident of birth.

    As in, you had no hand in it. Your parents may or may not have had some say in the matter, but for the vast majority of Americans, they didn't choose to be an American either. Any more than they chose the color of their skin or the texture of their hair.

    If you're the child of immigrants, or an immigrant yourself, then sure, be proud of the accomplishment. It was hard and they (or you) earned the right to be here. But for most of us, it's just where we happened to be from.

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  • [–] 39 points 7 months ago

    Hell yeah! America is now the number one exporter in highly qualified workers!

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    the lgbtq+ rights in your country seems amazing compared to my own

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    they are being eroded fast tho

    check literally any LGBTQ+ focused news site

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  • [+] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
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    And sometimes it's the same person. That's what people really fail to get. Everyone is capable of good and evil, often at the same time.

    Their need to demonize others as totally evil largely a product of their own fears that their evils will be discovered.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's promoting Europe and the rest of the world to come closer together with new treaties and trade. It's a positive move in the next phase of global relations.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    Is America fundamentally different today than in the past? Like others have pointed out, it's not like we've got no skeletons in our collective past. Ask any indigenous person, a large percentage of black folk, or anyone who's ever been considered "a foreigner." The only major difference is that the same people who have always been assholes are feeling like they can operate out in the open.

    But at the same time, the good that has always been true is still here. We're a beautiful country, with so many ecosystems and climates, two beautiful oceans, amazing natural resources, and we've been pretty safe from wars due to our geography and having two pretty good neighbors.

    Those being selfishly rich or power hungry have very loud voices these days instead of doing the same things while acting like so-called gentlemen, but they're still a minority. Most people are just keeping their heads down and earning an honest living. Many are still doing great things like working on medicine, trying to repair our environment, raising and teaching our children, helping those in need, whatever you can name.

    Maybe those that want to do evil in America want honest people to feel hopeless and to abandon holding on to what we have. That will leave it all to them after all. But I still love my home and my friends. I love our mountains, beaches, and wildlife. I love my America as much as ever, since I want this country to be the best it can be. But those who go around doing wrong in the name of this country, I want them to see justice more than ever too. We've survived the tyrants of America's past for over 400 years, and one way or another, we can only move forward and hopefully learn from our mistakes.

    We can be embarrassed or angry for how our country is being represented and managed, but barring a literal apocalypse, there's still a ton of good left to find here between the land and the actual people who live here and cash this place home.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    The US has some amazing musicians

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You're getting a lot of the same comments in here, and I don't feel like I need to add to the cacophony of voices decrying just how bad things have gotten (or, if you prefer, how bad they have always been and how they have only just now become more visible to us) so I thought I would chime in with one that still holds true today.

    The United States has some of the best national parks in the world. If you are someone who enjoys nature and being in the great outdoors, whether that's hiking, hunting, fishing, birdwatching, climbing, caving, exploring, etc. the experience you can get here really can't be matched anywhere else in the world. We have the most diverse range of biomes anywhere on the planet - deserts, mountains, valleys, forests, badlands, swamps - you name it, we've got it and it's probably contained in one of our many national parks scattered across the countryside - and the best part is that access is free for everybody.

    Now, the big caveat, and one that kind of deflates this selling point quite a bit recently, is that a lot of the national park land and nature reserves are under threat right now by the Trump administration - there have been big moves by the executive to reclassify lots of federally protected land in order to expand oil drilling/fracking operations, as well as a push to force non-resident visitors to pay for entry, both of which are being fought tooth and nail by conservationists and environmental activists.

    So, there's something. We can debate on whether or not it's a good thing to have national pride over things that we have little to no control over, but at the very least we can say we enjoy what we have now and take pride in the fact that our forebearers had the wisdom to use the law to protect the land and it's precious resources and that we continue that effort into the modern era.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    The United States has some of the best national parks in the world.

    For now.

    https://www.npca.org/articles/7044-parks-are-being-dismantled-before-our-very-eyes

    Now, the big caveat, and one that kind of deflates this selling point quite a bit recently, is that a lot of the national park land and nature reserves are under threat right now by the Trump administration

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  • [–] 186 points 7 months ago (26 children)

    Let me tell you the good news: we've always been fascist, racist, bullies. This admin is just not covering it up at all. Glad you're awake now my guy.

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  • [–] [S] 40 points 7 months ago (22 children)

    yea that was really good news. I ment so a small part of me can be proud again to be American?

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    Despite having done things that seem dated in other countries, you guys did plenty of good

    Just look at all the technological innovation coming from your country that saved a ton of lives (yes you have a shitty healthcare system, but these innovations will help humanity for the rest of its existence, they cannot be taken away)

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    I would suggest you focus on outgrowing the need to be proud of your nationality. It’s not necessary to be able to wave a flag happily to live a good life, do good things with your time, and appreciate others who are doing the same.

    The second you try to take this to the level of the entire country, and specifically the nation-state itself… now you’re into a whole mess. The US has a lengthy history of atrocities, toppling democracies, massacring innocents, dominating weaker groups… just don’t go there.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    If you're a birthright citizen, why would you be proud over something you did nothing to achieve? It's also not your fault, so there's nothing to be ashamed of either.

    It shakes out a little differently if you're naturalized, but only marginally. That naturalization test isn't much of a barrier.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    A trick is to acknowledge that there's many alternatives. You can choose to be proud of your state, county, or simply just say "yeah my country is a cunt, so what?" And realize pride of your country doesn't impact whether or not you've been a good, nice, or kind person.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)
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    You don't think there are any good reasons to be proud of being an American? Why not?

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Usually it’s considered pretty stupid to be proud of things you didn’t have a hand in. Why be proud of where you were born, when it was just random chance? I can see being happy or feeling privileged to be an American - that at least suggests what you’re appreciating is that it benefits you. Saying you’re proud implies that being from the USA is some sort of moral success and it’s just not.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    I don’t know if you want to call it something other than pride, but I’ve never learned another word for what I would feel if John Brown had been my grandfather. It’s not my achievement, nor would I feel entitled to it in any way, but it would make me feel warm and grounded. My actual grandfather was a wife beating alcoholic, and I feel shame about him, even though he died before I was born and I had nothing to do with this.

    I think that’s pretty common, even if it’s not logical, which happens a lot with feelings. I know several people whose parent(s) died when they were teenagers and in a period of tension with each other. All agree that the others shouldn’t feel any guilt for being normal teenagers when their parents died, and that the other parents knew they were loved, but most of them still feel as though they themselves had wronged their parents because of their teenagedom.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I'm sorry but this is incorrect.

    Pride is not necessarily personal achievement - sometimes it's identification or belonging. Our belonging to a group might be random chance, but endorsing the qualities of that group, shaping and participating in that group afterward are all active.

    And frankly, no one needs to prove their pride to you. You're not any kind of arbiter over whether people "deserve" to be proud of something.

    Best of luck to you.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    "Usually it’s considered pretty stupid to be proud of things you didn’t have a hand in." Is it stupid to be proud of a friend when they accomplish something you didn't help with, just because they are a part of your life and you want to see them succeed? Could that not be extrapolated out to pride in one's country when it accomplishes something, even if all you directly contributed was your tax money?

    "Why be proud of where you were born, when it was just random chance?" Because the place I was born creates the circumstances in which I was raised, forming the environment that shapes my values, worldview, and culture. I don't think I should feel like I deserve credit, but why not have pride in knowing that I have the opportunity to carry on the legacy and work that accomplished pride-worthy things in the past?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Pride should be reserved for accomplishments, not for merely being born within some lines on a map. That being said, some immigration stories could be classed as accomplishments, so perhaps there’s pride to be found there.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    Well, you freed the slaves that you had enslaved. I mean, their descendants anyway.

    I guess the answer is yes. Some small part of you can be proud to be American again. All you have to do is not think about it too hard, and you could try yelling "Silver Bullet" and shotgunning a Coors Light every now and then. That could maybe act as a stand-in for pride, anyway. C'mon buddy, it's not that bad...

    In all seriousness, individually Americans are pretty good people. Well, a few of the ones I know personally anyway. That's like a couple of baker's dozens! That's something!

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Any nation that still ends official messages with “god bless America” and whose primary power projection has been weapons for centuries, is still a shithole. You’re not saying “allahu ackbar” because your religious extremists use a slightly different book.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    There are worse places to live.

    Don't get me wrong, there are loads of better places to live, but there are definitely worse places.

    America makes great animated series. It makes great movies sometimes too. Admittedly both of these things are usually actually made overseas, but you guys write them.

    You also have a nice flag. Although you do kind of ruin it by being super weird about them.

    You have really cheap petrol / gas. That's definitely something you beat most of the world at. I think that's the winner - cheap gas.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I appreciate your earnestness. But speaking as an American artist, your country absolutely has the same caliber of talent and creativity. It just doesn't have the Hollywood dollar attached to it. I don't even know where you live. I can say that with my whole chest because creative expression is an inherent part of being a human being. You can't suppress it, control it, or sell it for long without it rebelling against its constraints. Or shouting itself from the literal rooftops.

    I think that's the most valuable thing in the world. You should look into locally produced art and cinema. I guarantee you your local arts college has an independent film festival.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Many of my friends are organizing everything from mutual aid, protection of the targeted, and have expressed a willingness to die for the best values we were taught, if it comes to that. People like that are one good thing about America. Each of us can contribute in our own way, and many are quietly doing so. I don’t have a crystal ball to predict the future but good people fearlessly doing what is right feeds my soul.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago*

    Everywhere there are good people doing good things with the best of intentions - people doing art for the love of the art, actually taking care of natural areas for the love of nature, helping others because they don't want others to suffer rather than as some "charity" grift to make money or make others think they're good people, and so on.

    They're just not in power in the US and, IMHO, don't add up to anywhere close to being the majority of people.

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