Also suggests Trump floated the idea with the press before discussion in detail with, you know, the actual people who would be sending the boats

Everyone is heavily incentivized to watch Trump sweat a bit more.

I imagine there are very few leaders who wouldn't be happy to see Trump replaced.

Why would we come to his aid to mitigate this catastrophic unforced error.

The US has fucked everyone. I've literally been angry about it for a decade now.

The dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed.

Even Bush had a coalition of the willing.

I guarantee you they have not made that connection at all.

The documentaries in ten or twenty years are gonna slap

... If we get there

My opinion is he knows ships will be sunk so he wants it to be someone else's ships. Let's not forget Iran has a ton of mini submarines probably sitting quietly waiting.

Or… he’s asking them to take losses because he doesn’t consider them allies. World conquest would be easier with the Chinese and UK navies out of the way.

There is no way for ships to take back control of the Strait this way.

Yep. The only way to actually take control of the strait is a bunch of ships and occupying/controlling all the nearby land within drone/missile/artillery range.

Why isn't the Orange ShitGoblin using the 'Board of Peace' to sort this trifling issue out?

The next world war is gonna be governments vs people. World civil war

I dislike increasingly elaborate insult names, absolutely no one who cares about it really needs convincing, they just make it unnecessarily long and random nonsensical jibberish. And I like mangos.

NATO only does humanitarian bombing.

The scary far right parties tend to be against NATO. CDU implemented all of the hateful anti-immigrant legislation the AfD wanted. Its those "pure liberal hearts" that want war on Russia, and digital ID surveillance.

And a system change to boot. This is a symptom.

Israel.

Israel is the perfect scapegoat on this, all trump has to do is pull his ships back and stop being a defense for Israel.

That's literally what the American Christian right has always wanted with their support of Israel too.

Their doomsday prophecy is:

1. Jewish ethnostate in Israel

2. War in the Middle East, started by Israel

3. Israel getting wiped off the map which causes the rapture

4. Nonbelivers have to experience Armageddon

Which was cool with Israel up to step 2, but we just passed that a few weeks ago...

Yes but reality and Trump have never been comfortable bedfellows. He claimed that Iran's entire naval fleet had been completely wiped out and it turns out it was just one ship they sunk. And now the world's most powerful military are apparently unable to secure a patch of water about 20 miles across.

He pooped on his allies so they’ve turned their backs on him.

Remember the Greenland thing?

Europe remembers!

Please stop sane-washing calling any of the military or government "his". It's supposed to be our government and our military. Don't let him normalize that it belongs to him.

I'm not sure the American people have learned their lesson yet. I say let the Tariffs continue until they realize they should never elect another Republican again. I say that as an American paying for the tariffs. The answer should just be "No."

Yeah, lol. I wonder if Denmark/Greenland is one of the countries he's demanding help from.

Maybe some FIFA warships will do the trick 🤡🤡🤡👌🏻👌🏻😂😂 Sorry i can't... its the only way for me to digest this timeline xddd

If someone should protect the strait, its UAE, Saudi-Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait and everyone who’s exports are dependent of it.

And you already won the war.

Nato AND China

Technically the straight is vital for all countries. So Trump went and fucked the world with his war mongering. And countries may be wishing to workout a deal that if they help him, they get something if he is successful, but imo, that would be a mistake, since his agreements aren't worth shit.

So, to me, the only solution is to wait and see and leave trump on his own.

He will definitely use that later on and accuse of not helping etc... but thats fine. If countries do help, it wont score them with brownie points, because trump always wants more, so if he can back out of a deal, and you dont have much leverage to force him not to, he will just TACO right out of it.

I'd sooner help Iran secure the straight, and china, and bring the entire american economy to its knees, before I helped it win its war.

And if I ever DID consider sending ships, I'd ask for 20 billion$ up front, and once the check clears, i will send my ships.

What front lines? Maybe for celebratory hamburgers, since the war is already won?

You mean… send THEM to clear all the mines?

Apparently it’s illegal for US ships to escort foreign vessels.

And now the Trump regime suddenly cares what is and isn't legal!?!?

Apparently it’s illegal for US ships to escort foreign vessels.

Would be par for the course for Americans if it was illegal for their ships to help foreigners

I mean, the US escorted ships there during the Iran/Iraq war in the 1980s...

Can't ships change flag while at sea? That one taking stuff from south America to Russia carrying who knows what did a few months ago. So all the ship would be to do is declare itself American while it goes through the strait, the revert back to its original flag after.

Is that more illegal than bombing fishing boats? At any rate, just make the totally certain to be successful escort mission use US oil tankers and ships, because the US has so many ships to spare, and the mission is being done because they've totally won the war and no one can touch greatest military ever.