Summary

  • B.C. will adopt permanent, year-round daylight saving time after clocks shift forward an hour on Sunday, March 8, 2026
  • People and businesses will have eight months to prepare for the elimination of the next time change, previously scheduled for Nov. 1, 2026
  • Eliminating twice-yearly time changes reduces disruptions for families, simplifies scheduling and provides an extra hour of evening light during the winter months

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[–] 5 points 8 months ago

Wish this could magically happen one day in ONtario.

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  • Hell yeah! Congrats B.C.! I hope the other provinces follow!

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    They should have gone with regular time. This will have negative impacts on the health of people, especially children in school.

    And to all of those that say time is subjective, I'll believe you what school starts at 10am.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Do you think kids in Thunder Bay are worse off than Montreal because of the time zone relative toe sunrise? They're both on EST, but sunrise is about an hour off between the two of them. Or is it about kids going to school in the dark, because I have bad news for you regarding most of Canada...

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Adopting permanent daylight time instead of permanent standard time is completely backwards.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Is it? Why? Daylight time was already a larger portion of the year.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    It's less natural for the body from what I recall reading (I do not recall the source, it was years ago.)

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Nothing is natural about how we wake and go to sleep these days, I'm not sure why that would matter.

    Today for example, where I live in BC (which is essentially along the border) sunrise was at 6:51am (with it starting to get light even before that) and sunset will be 5:59pm (with it still being light a bit later than that of course)

    If we spring ahead to the new system, it would mean sunrise would have been at 7:51am, with sunset at 6:59pm.

    When I got up this morning at quarter to 7am to my alarm beeping, even though sunrise was just about to occur, the first thing I did was turn on my bedroom light so that I could see. My blinds were closed, so I could not tell if it was light or dark outside.

    When I get home, I will turn on my house and room lights for multiple hours before I go to bed tonight.

    Dec 21st would have been sunrise from essentially 9am to 5pm, instead of 8am to 4pm. Either way I'm waking up in the dark, and going to bed in the dark.

    In the deepest parts of summer, it is light before I wake up and is just barely reaching darkness before I go to bed most nights. Under standard time it would actually be dark before I go to bed... maybe that's the benefit?

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    [–] 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Hopefully the rest of the west coast will follow.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I just don't understand why we have to change clocks instead of all just agreeing to get up an hour earlier.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, it's really not like most people clock in at 08:00 sharp at the factory gate anymore. Where's the problem if school starts a half hour earlier in summer? If one colleague wants more daylight in winter, they should be able to just come in 1-2 hours early and leave early.

    I voted for this in the EU referendum YEARS ago, and they just kinda were like "lol, no. Fuck you". Really happy (part of) Canada got it's shit together, but damn, I'm envious. Changing clocks gives me splitting headaches for 2 days every time.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    Literally none of the institutions which start at a fixed time (6-9 am) will offset their schedule by one hour. These things are literally written in stone. They don't give a single fuck where the sun is, school starts at 08:30 and work starts at 09:00, from now until the end of western civilization, because doing otherwise would be a logistical inconvenience and sleep disorders are not their problem.

    Permanent ST = 1 hour less sunlight after school/work. It's unavoidable unless you have the luxury of making your own schedule, at which point timezone does not matter to you so why are you crusading for the working man to be forever cursed to only see the sun from a cubicle? (I could live with permanent DST but that doesn't seem like the road we'll be going down)

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    We did it several years ago in all of Mexico. It's just better.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Nice! I'm a programmer, I hate daylight saving time with a passion. Feels like half of all bugs in IT somehow trace to it. 😑

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    What sorts of issues? It's been common for decades to store time in UTC, and render local time on the client side.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Not the person you responded to , but the "render local time on the client side" is the tricky part, especially when the time is in the past or future relative to current. Theres a hundred edge cases to consider and many of them very non-obvious to our feeble linear time oriented mortal minds.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yes, I'm familiar with the Tom Scott video, but even he says at the end to store data in UTC and use a library like tzdata for rendering, don't do it yourself. I was more curious about what day to day issues were happening because of DST, since that seems like bad implementation, and not an impossible problem that would be causing half of all IT issues.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    So as s simple example from the system I work with:

    Customers can set rolling validities for alerts, e.g., Monday 8-10.

    If a customer from a place which currently has DST puts in 8-10 say, CEST, in their browser (6-8 UTC) then they intuitively expect this to still be 8-10 their local time (7-9 UTC) when later winter time rolls around.

    But, all data checked for alerts comes in in UTC and different users editing these validities are from different countries, timezones and summer time preferences.

    Gets funky really quickly. Especially because the evaluation has to account for the DST shift essentially on a per-recipient DST-when-configured vs DST-when-evaluated basis.
    (This is genuinely a simple example, it gets worse 😁)

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah, I've had my share of timezone madness, but usually anytime timezones are involved, the DST doesn't cause too much more extra work (except for potentially creating invalid times in the spring you have to handle).

    It's been a while, but i worked on something similar long ago, and the way we did it was in the user's profile, store the TZ identifier, so for example Europe/Berlin. We had alerts for users stored in an alerts table, and there was a column for "last sent" and "next scheduled". Everytime an alert was sent, it would check the user's profile and use the TZ info to generate the UTC time that the next email should go out and update "next scheduled" field with the UTC value. Granted the options for the schedule were fairly limited (every hour, every day, every month), but it worked pretty flawlessly from what I recall.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I manage a bunch of code that has to handle that sort of thing, since no customers have complained I haven't had to check into it. Now that I've typed this I imagine I'll get an issue next week cause last person who did it wasn't so great with that stuff. Seems to work so easier to let it be till it doesn't.

    Mostly installed locally but we do have some hosted customers on central servers, either they haven't noticed issues or it works. I'd put money on the former than latter though.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 8 months ago

    You and me both. It's especially fun when you work in multiple timezones and some also have standard or daylight time on top of that. Really adds a layer to that shit sandwich of 12 hour time with 12am/pm confusion too

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    At least they went forward rather than the status quo of 'normal' time

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of medical boards prefer permanent standard time.

    https://savestandardtime.com/statements/

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Thanks that's interesting!

    Clearly sticking with one is medically better but I don't see much debate about which one - there's a few vague statements that standard time matches the inertia we have biologicaly but I've yet to see a considered argument looking deeper into it, unfortunately.

    For those in distant latitudes it's a big deal - and that seems to be where most of us live...

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    B.C. officially ends time

    changes and adopts single time zone

    Bit overboard but ok

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    If only. Ontario said they would only do it if all their neighbours said they would do it too. So all our neighbours said they would do it if their neighbours do it. And their neighbours said “sure! If all of our neighbours will join us”.

    We can only hope BC being willing can trickle back eastwards across everyone until we are compelled.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Huzzah! I hope more follow suit.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Yay! Daylight stops at 10-11pm in the summer and daylight starts at 9am in the winter.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Does this mean the sun won't start to rise until ~9am in Dec? 💀

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So much fun for children walking to school in pitch dark.

    Bring that standard time or leave it alone. Summer time in winter will be a pain.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Agreed. Apparently we're the only morning people in this thread 😅

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    If only there was a standard time to stay with. What did the experts say?

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