The thing that's insane to me is that most of the alternatives have screen sharing with working audio on the back burner, while I can tell you that the first one to get it working will be my go to. Hopefully with this extra cushion, one of them can get it working it's the only thing discord has over its competitors other than general stability related things.

This is my take. Fluxer and Root are the top two for my group, but they need more time in the oven(hell, everything does).

So far I've uninstalled discord on my devices and I'm using it via the web browser only in a container tab, until my group switches over to something else.

Can't fucking wait to delete my account.

Don't enable encryption in group chats unless you want to know what meme unable to decrypt message is about

Was trying to get voice group chats. I'm getting my ass kicked and my set up hasn't worked yet and keeps getting bigger with parts I'm not sure I need or work.

Which client is the multi-platform one with message history and streaming video?

I have too. It's... Really not ready for primetime, based on present-day experiences watching rooms lurch into view (and I don't even think it's possible to search for them on Android). Has video at least gotten better?

How the heck have I not heard of this one yet? It already looks promising - I see video, chat, channel organization...

https://github.com/ancsemi/Haven

Agreed; Discord is trying to lull people into a false sense of security as a means of convincing them to stay, in the same manner that Reddit gave limited API access to apps like RedReader to stem the tide of users leaving for platforms like Lemmy.

Beyond age verification, if Discord is scanning a user's messaging history to determine what their age is, one can only imagine all the other data valuable to data brokers that they are extracting from it too.

You can self-host Matrix without federating, but it’s the best part about it. There is still work to be done about video calls, screen sharing and such in different Matrix clients but it is being work on. Try for example CommetChat as it’s the closest to Discord.

So when all your friends want to screenshare on somewhere else, they install Movim and then sign up on...

And then when they jump into chats, will they be able to search the room history and post memes (images)?

Check DNS logs. Discord is proprietary undocumented garbage that connects to dozens of raw IP addresses that have no documentation, rhyme, or reasoning. You have no clue what or who is connected in that mess of garbage, or why they are there.

It is about like, I'm going to give you access to a phone, a special phone, it just works.

It is a prison phone. You are in prison when you use it... technically. But you don't really "see" the "place". The other inmates are all around you. They see you, but you don't see them. Never mind that though, the phone just works. Lots of people love that phone. Nobody asks questions. Just use the phone and pay no attention to all the rest. It will be fine.

Business model? Viability? Never mind all of that. Don't ask questions like that. The numbers do not add up in the slightest. That is the magic of prisons. Justice costs a lot, but it is worth it right. Magic phone is easy. Ask no questions. Expect no answers. Totally normal, everyone is doing it.

The whole thing is a mass of clueless zombie morons that ask no questions and have no idea who what or why they are connected to with all those raw IP addresses. They all give trust blindly without accountability or understanding.