Dolphin is surprisingly powerful. I was using a tool (SshPilot) to handle my remote connections and it had an option to browse a remote computer's filesystem. I was curious what that would look like and it just used my local Dolphin windows and opened up my remote computer and easily browse the files there. I'm so used to using an external program like FileZilla for stuff like that.

Full per-display virtual desktops is actively being worked on, currently aiming for 6.7 hopefully.

I also liked GNOME 2 a lot. Current GNOME is okay for what it is, but it feels too dumbed down for my tastes. For example the default editor has basically no features compared to gedit back in the day. The desktop is kind of nice on a laptop with a good touchpad and gestures though.

It was developed and released during a time where people obsessed with touch interfaces thanks to deficient computing devices like phones and tablets. So many people were wholly convinced that these things were going to completely replace general purpose computing, so projects like Gnome, which were being run by Red Hat, had to follow along one way or another, though they probably did so willingly.

In any case, I am SO glad those days are over. It was far, far worse than the AI hype that we have to put up with today.

You have a right to that opinion but Gnome 4(0) was released a year and a half ago, and we're on 49 now. Also, I think it's beautiful and elegant.

Yup! Still the default on HP-UX too!

I do dislike it. Sorry everyone.

I genuinely hope history remembers the GNOME desktop as "it was good, and then they started making some really stupid decisions!"

How is MATE nowadays? Is it just Gnome 2 frozen in time or does it have modern features?

Guh-NU

So... Why is that pronounced "Guhnoo"?

Then it should be pronounced "Gee-nome" and be a homonym with "genome".

lmfao gonna pass on the homework, teach

yet seem incapable of understanding that people could have preferences different from their own.

Perfect description of Gnome developers.

We don't, except for when gnome is installed by default.

As both a Cinnamon and KDE user, you can tell you're using an app made for Gnome because it either outright doesn't do anything, or it does the barest least nuanced most stereotypical version of that thing. Oh great, another empty fuckpuke window that doesn't respect the system theme with an empty hamburger menu and one button in the very top-left that says "Do Something".

I don't know of a package manager with a GTK filter.

It's because we wasted so much time on the Gnome side of the fence, cracking jokes at KDE, and now we know what we were missing and we want our wasted time back.

When saying it deserves "all" the criticism, I might have been hyperbolic
I agree with most of what you said.

The keep it simple philosophy I agree with, but there are a few UI decisions, a few missing features I couldn't wrap my head around. They tend to be rectified in the end because it's common sense, but it takes a very long time and it can be frustrating. I'm sorry my memory is shit so I only remember the sentiment and don't have specifics. I do have one recent example, I needed to change a very simple shortcut. The system doesn't allow it and it feels arbitrary.

Extensions are really great. Some are absolute gems, and they tend to work perfectly. But the fact some are almost mandatory to have sane default is an issue. Especially when you have multiple devices. I don't think most people want a useless popup telling you the program has launched (or the window is activated, what is it again?), popup which once clicked won't even open said program. The extensions graveyard is hard to see though. I had recently a good one that wouldn't be ported to latest gnome, killing my linux tablet workflow. and can anyone tell me what the app menu with icons in seemingly random order is for?

I've used KDE for 4 years and mostly liked it, but I had tons of issues, and very few with Gnome.
KDE users I know your experience might be different but I'm telling you how it went for me. Gnome, while imperfect in this regard, has been much better. I tried Plasma 6 when it came out and it was pretty much the same for me, but I will give it another try at one point.

I'm happy I'm not the only one to experience KDE like that. I've had far better experiences with XFCE than with KDE, but I keep going back to GNOME because of the user experience. I'm happy people enjoy KDE though, so I don't generally feel a strong need to trash it online. But my god can the user base be insufferable at times.

KDE on the other hand... I am glad it exists but I wish it were better. I feel like it literally wants to be windows.

KDE's approach was ‘Windows, but with even more dialogs and crammed lists’ for at least twenty years. And it also felt clunky way back then. People on Lemmy keep saying that Plasma is good now, but I read the complaints and it's like nothing changed.

I find gnome easier to customize, something always messes up with kde for me when setting up my ui, gnome also lets you use your computer and watch videos while customizing, kde plasma takes over your screen and you cant see your windows.

Posh person nonsense. At fancy parties you're supposed to use different food weapons for each course and work your way from the outside in. Fairly sure the only reason it was invented was so rich ppl could show off how many fancy pieces of cutlery they owned.

Which is the vibe I get from Gnome's design and its devs' attitude in general. "Fancy party". A bunch of dumbass rules you have no influence over and which people will sneer at you for breaking.

Tbh I don’t mind the Mac look - in fact it’s one of the things that drew me to it as I use macOS for work - and the above complaint is my only real complaint.

I keep posting it wherever it’s relevant in case someone comes out of the woodwork with a solution 😅

It is personal preference