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[–] 128 points 8 months ago (10 children)

What this shit headline DOESN'T say is that this passing would require 60 votes, not a simple majority. Unless the GOP nukes the filibuster, which it doesn't seem like many GOP-fuckwits like, they still won't have the required votes to pass this.

Still, this is sobering that they have her 50th vote, and couch-fucker Vance's "have you even said thank you once" 51st vote, if it were truly a tie breaker scenario.

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  • [–] [S] 32 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I think it's more about calling her out.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Fair but it's clickbait, which is shitty

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    How is it clickbait? It literally says the thing in the title

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    What makes you think the Dems will filibuster? So far Schumer has capitulated every single time.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    That's not how the filibuster works. It only takes one person to do it. It's take 60 to vote against it to stop it from being done by that one person. Even Schumer isn't dumb enough to call the dems to vote against them doing their own thing.

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  • [–] 145 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    Man, I'll never fully understand what the fuck is wrong with Maine residents and their obsession with her.

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  • [–] 39 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    I don't know the situation in Maine, but being a deciding vote usually means you get a lot of concessions. It's quite possible Maine residents get what they want from her via these concessions.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    What does someone in Maine get out of this? Maybe Collins is getting shit for it but the average person is getting fucked.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I don't know this bill specifically, but bills have a lot of weird unrelated shit tacked onto them. Sometimes that stuff is state-specific stuff. There have been lots of cases where senators have opposed a bill but changed their tune after something specifically for their state was added. They can then brag about these wins during primaries.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Maybe we're looking for nuance where there isn't any, and the majority of Maine residents are just hateful and racist.

    Source: they keep electing Susan Collins

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I've spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected.

    Source: Previously lived there for 26 years.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it.

    We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    So bribery. Maine residents are okay with immoral national politics, as long as they get their kickbacks for making it happen.

    I'm thinking concessions for being the deciding vote should not be a thing.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    I remember reading a study years ago that said people are more likely to support a leader who "plays dirty" because 1) they figure other leaders are doing the same so they must level the playing field, and 2) they can turn a blind eye to the misdeeds because it's the leader doing it, not the voters.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Not sure I’d give much credit to susie on this one. It’s more than likely filling her pockets.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's the answer right there. They're voting for her because they like that she's lining her own pockets.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    I’m not suggesting residents of Maine are voting for her to line pockets. They seem to vote for her for whatever reason makes sense to them. She continues to believe certain people “have learned their lesson” and will do the honorable thing.

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This is why no Republican should be allowed into office, ever.

    Even the "moderate" ones will betray America.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    From the article.

    According to a recent scorecard, Collins has voted with Trump 96% of the time — the same rate as Mitch McConnell and two points above conservative Rand Paul.

    She's as moderate as Mitch McConnell

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Both of our parties are unconstitutional private organizations, and both have been bought long before we were born

    Democrats won't save you

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago

    Even Mitch McConnell didn't vote for this thing.

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator.

    But better still is anyone who believed the "You need 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate" line we've been swallowing since Clinton.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator.

    I'm not American so I'm probably missing something, but isn't this a Republican who votes almost exclusively along party lines? So, a case of people getting exactly what they voted for?

    I'm not saying she's not a despicable arsehole, but it doesn't seem like she hides it.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    She's one of a few the Republicans have had strategically vote against the party when her vote wasn't needed to pass a bill. Basically her, Murkowski, and for a while McCain, until he really bucked the party with the ACA vote and became a pariah until his death.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Partisanship is such a driving force in our politics that even someone who only bucks their party 4% of the time is considered "bipartisan". I've seen reports in the media calling a vote "bipartisan" if it only gets two or three votes from the other side.

    And yes, it depends on that person's reputation. Since Collins is seen as a moderate, all it takes is her support on a bill to call it "bipartisan". OTOH, Senator Rand Paul frequently votes against the Republican party line, but only because he is a batshit crazy libertarian. He can vote against a Republican bill, and nobody calls that "bipartisan", I guess because both sides think he's nuts.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    So the news here is "Rebellious Republican didn't rebel against Republican bill"?

    Except "rebellious" means "still toes the line 96% of the time" and "Republican bill" means "whatever fucked up turd of an idea Trumps handlers have evacuated through that festering mouth-hole in his face"?

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sure she thinks he's learned his lesson.

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  • [–] 54 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    The social contract is broken.

    Focus on your community and resisting fascism.

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  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Oh the one Nazi who sometimes isn't a Nazi did a Nazi thing? Shocked.

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    [–] 20 points 8 months ago

    I really hate that lady.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    jfc she can fuck off and die already

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    In a rare, unprecedented, political moment: republicans banned together to do something truly deplorable.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    Perfect tombstone quote when this decrepit thing passes.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Of course she did...

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Where filibuster?

    Anyways, this is only 20 minutes into the 2nd episode of the Season 2026 of House of Cards and the plot is already getting wilder and wilder. Can't wait till what the writers come up with in Season 2028 Episode 11...

    The Lafayette Square Coup?

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  • [–] 33 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Fuck this old crone. Every one of these old establishment dems like schumer, pelosi and collins need to fucking die already. If you're gonna sit in that seat and deny your constituents true representation until you die, then you might as well get it over with.

    Thanks for literally nothing, you useless, feckless coward.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago*

    She's a Repedolican, but I can see why you're confused because everyone likes to pretend she's somehow less extreme than the other ones. She's not, just puts on a little show of "being concerned" about things, but always votes right along with the rest of them.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    No shit how else was she going to keep her seat in the Senate lol

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Most of the party wouldn't risk primarying her in this environment. The NRSC knows no other Republican has a shot of winning the general, and they've definitely made that clear to the idiot in chief, who probably now understands there's a reasonable chance that the Senate flips. I don't think there's any political calculation here; she's being a dick because that's what she is.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    So last November the republicans ran a 'fair voting' law in Maine and it got voted down by 65% of the state. Susan collins seat is at risk indeed. I see a lot of Graham Planter signs in the place of the old Trump signs. I think they are shitting a brick about midterms and this law is a political calculation to do what ever they need to do to skew the election in her favor. At this point I think she might just do it for the head lines. She's always contemplating until last minute when she always votes with her voting block.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    She's certainly losing that seat, to be fair.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    nothings certain. Im hoping mills and collins flop and the young populist dude sweeps it. I would not be surprised at all to see Susan win a fair election or a rigged election. I would be pleased if she didn't.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    She knows it gives her the best chance of being re-elected.

    Do these people think they're going live forever? Something twists the minds of everyone who gains power. They become absolutely incapable of giving it up voluntarily.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Truly - What do they care about what happens after they're dead? .. They'll be dead.

    They have no empathy towards anyone who will suffer the consequences because they won't have to be the ones to deal with the fallout. "Fuck you, I got mine" is their entire strategy.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    God I hate this broad

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    Collin’s you cunt!

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  • Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck...

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    Collins is a sack of shit and must be another Russian asset.

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  • [+] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] [S] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    She's about to be voted out by Planter if the overwhelming polls are even barely accurate.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Though to be fair, I’m sure she is very concerned

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    add to the list of collaborators. the regime will fall, and some of these dinosaurs will be still living. there must be a reckoning.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I read save act will block a lot more republican women from voting than anyone else because married democrat women are far more likely to own a passport

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Susan "I killed abortion rights" Collins

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Leadership of our parties are all old vultures like this hag, who has sat in office for THIRTY YEARS

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I’m getting pretty old and we have no representation. These are all treasonous traitors who represent corporations, oligarchs and Israel. We will not be able to vote our way out of this.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    This is literally a discussion Bout ho elections aren't free and fair. We did not vote for this and the vast majority of Americans, in a true democratic election (not a representative democracy), would stop this from ever passing. But that isn't how we operate. Instead we vote for people who vote on our behalf and we vote for law makers who make laws on our behalf and who vote on those laws. And we somehow just have to trust the representatives to actually represent us. But there's no way in hell that is going to always work.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    "Always going to work" = never works

    Voter support for higher minimum wage is around 70%. Support for universal healthcare and abortion is over 60%. Support for term limits is over 70%. And so on.

    Our government is pay-for-play, and the voters can't pay... but Musk and Amazon and the rest have some discretionary income to share with the politicians.

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