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[+] 211 points 8 months ago (36 children)
  • [–] 75 points 8 months ago (25 children)

    And that also makes him the greatest artist.

    I mean consider this... using nothing but the concrete walls of the Führerbunker as canvas, his own grey matter as paint, and his trusty sidearm as a brush, he created the most impactful painting of humanity.

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    That thought just made my day a bit brighter, hopefully Trump will make a similar piece soon.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    If only we had footage to make fun gifs out of

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    Doubtless a picture-generating AI could do it.

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  • [+] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (18 children)
  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    How about you put that in a fucking spoiler tag bud

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (6 children)

    I tired to put a lot of space. I'll edit. Sorry.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    My lemmy client doesn't automatically truncate posts like some other social media platforms do. For sensitive stuff like this, just use the spoiler so people don't have to scroll past a bunch of useless dots.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    My app doesn't properly support Lemmy's way of doing spoiler markup so that felt like a good compromise at the time. I thought you could collapse a comment. Now I'll know to go to the web in these cases. Thanks.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Unfortunately, I can't collapse individual comments, it collapses the whole thread.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    After such a thing you probably don't want to see the follow-ups anyway. But I'll keep that in mind.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I dunno, sometimes I want to see discussion about something I've already seen, but don't want to see again. I watched the video the day of, and will gladly talk or joke about it, I just want to choose when and where I refresh my memory of it.

    Tangentially, I wish the devs would let me turn off autoplaying gifs, for similar reasons lol.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    If you’re gonna post that I’d hide it behind a spoiler

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    I tried to put a lot of space. I'll edit. Sorry.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    All good, I’m pretty desensitized to violent imagery online at this point, just trying to look out for others. Your edit worked, I appreciate it. Also lol at “irony”

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Is that his actual death though? To me it just looks like sarcastic acting.

    Like he's making fun of the idea of getting shot.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (2 children)

    It's sarcastic editing in fact.

    Edit: my trigger warnings were genuine, despite a bit of humour in the last one.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    It’ll be a national holiday when Trump goes. Just need to think up a properly passive aggressive name for it. Liberation day kinda works, but might be too ironic.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Regan-Trump geriatric awareness day?

    Celebrated by organizing against people in government who are too fucking old to be driving a car, let alone running the country?

    It will also be effectively legal to shit on gravesites that day. Not because of any change in the law, but because it would take too much work to enforce on dementia day.

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  • [–] 64 points 8 months ago (41 children)

    Two former senior ICE officials told Newsweek that accidental discharges were not uncommon and often involved experienced agents rather than new hires.

    What?

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    There's no such thing as an accidental discharge. There are negligent discharges and there are mechanical disasters. If it's not one of those then you intended for the gun to fire.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago*

    Negligent Discharge vs Uncommanded Discharge.

    Negligent Discharge is where somebody carelessly caused the weapon to fire essentially via poorly handling it / being a dumbass.

    Uncommanded Discharge is where the weapon essentially fires itself due to a mechanical failure or design flaw inherent to the weapon itself, such as a pistol firing on its own after being dropped and hitting the ground, despite the trigger not actually being pulled.

    You can also get a 'hangfire'.

    Basically, old or defective ammo can result in a situation where you pull the trigger, the hammer/striker drops... and then nothing happens for 5, 10, 15 seconds... and then the weapon fires.

    Hangfires are extremely dangerous because yes, you did intend for the weapon to fire, but you also expected it to fire when you pulled the trigger, not... a random and unknowable amount of time after you pulled the trigger.

    Though I guess you could get a hangfire that is initiated by an uncommanded discharge, if your Luck stat is somehow negative.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'll agree that negligence does not equate to accident, my young child and I have been working on that lesson for years. But intent is a bit of a stretch. If it was actual intent, I'd be overjoyed. This is more of a dumpster fire just doing what it does.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    You misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm saying this was a negligent discharge. It wasn't an accidental discharge since those don't exist. And it wasn't an intended discharge. And it wasn't a mechanical failure by the manufacturer or designer of the gun. The only other option is negligent discharge.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Read about this years ago. This is the only accidental discharge I've heard about. Worn leather holster pulls the trigger. In fairness, an argument can be made that using a worn/flexible holster was negligence.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    I like the documentation in that article.

    The photo they show of the holster makes it very clear that this is negligence, though. there's simply no question about that. as a gun owner you are expected to be smart enough to realize that your holster must not deform in this manner, especially with that model of gun

    also, personal note: fuck that guy for wearing this into a cafe

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (29 children)

    Coming from a multigenerational family of LE and Military I can tell you first hand that NDs are never common. Not even slightly.

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  • [–] 39 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    LE and ND?

    Not everyone lives in the acronym country.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    Depends who you talk to. I know a guy in construction who has had to patch bullet holes in several LEO houses. Also at the sport men's club I'm a member of, the only shooting injury we've had was from a state trooper during a training excercise. You're point is valid, though. NDs are supposed to be minimalized through training and adherence to the 4 gun rules. These guys are morons.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    It's dangerous.

    Don't touch that.

    Not that way.

    What an I missing? Is the fourth also the first?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)
    1. Keep your finger off the boom trigger until your ready to fire.
    2. know your target and what’s behind it.
    3. assume the gun is always loaded, even when you know it isn’t.
    4. never point it at something you aren’t willing to completely and utterly destroy.
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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    "ND"? I can get as far as N-somthing Discharge.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Ah, derp. TY. That seems really obvious in hindsight.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    "TY"? I can get as far as T-somthing Yaoi.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I know very few Leo’s or vets, like only a couple. But one that I do know NDed himself in the thigh while servicing his gun.

    So you 0/N is somewhat offset by my 1/4.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Servicing a gun with a round in the chamber is negligent unless you’re in active combat.

    There’s no context provided, but I can’t see any situation where you service a loaded firearm and point it at your thigh.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Are you saying he was cleaning a loaded gun? Or am I misunderstanding?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I wouldn't be surprised if 'experienced' agents are generally also incompetent. Pre-trump they would have mostly had pretty mundane duties, maybe manning a border station checking paperwork, maybe even desk jockeys. Sure "enforcement" actions were a thing, but I suspect a large number of people were never anywhere close to 'action'.

    A reporter that went through the hiring process included the detail that while desk work was a possibility that a recruit had to be prepared for, it was a critical priority to get as many people on the streets with guns.

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  • [–] 60 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Finally, some good fucking news.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Until they start blaming protesters for it. Like Israel when their occupying forces run over their own unexploded ordnance and they blame it on hamas.

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  • [+] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Felony murder is used like that all the time, for any death that they say results or was influenced by your lawbreaking. Like if I asked you for a ride to the store, then went in the store and shot someone, jumped in your car and went home. Even if you didn't know you are vulnerable, and we all know how prosecutors and police lie.

    What is it, a 15 or 20 year felony, often tacked onto a list of other crimes. But if for a police that shot himself chasing you or something they might even bring more extreme charges. Like I've heard of real world cases of people spitting on police that were charged with attempted murder, theory being they were trying to give them terminal diseases, but the alleged spitter didn't have any disease, they just charged that as a reaction.

    Spitting on someone is bullshit, but what about when you are talking, sometimes a little bit of spit will fly out of your mouth and land on someone, it happens to everyone occasionally.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Felony murder is used like that all the time, for any death that they say results or was influenced by your lawbreaking.

    Unless it's something trivial, like storming the capitol of the country and getting a few folks killed along the way.

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  • [–] 75 points 8 months ago

    Remember in 8 Mile when Cheddar Bob shot himself in the leg with his own gun? Same thing. The only difference here is Cheddar Bob was a lovable idiot instead of a fascist.

    cheddar-bob.gif

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  • [–] 71 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well good. It's about time they shoot someone who deserves it.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

    Since they cant handle firearms safely then they shouldnt be permitted to have any.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    That is a most un-American thing to say.

    As a gun owner, I approve.

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