100% keen on keeping it. Expanding it to keep all political discussions out would be nice but I know that won't happen.

For the love of god, keep it as it is!

!AskUSA@discuss.online exists so I say this rule should stay. I feel bad enough about the deluge of US news our non-yank co users deal with as it is.

As a US citizen, keep the rule. As laid out in the text of the rule, there are already communities where questions of that nature can be asked.

It's possible to imagine people having good questions about US politics, e.g. something like "I'm considering running for this public office in this state, what do I need to know about x?" but good luck crafting a rule that allows that and not the worthless noise.

eyyyyy, shameless self-promo, but i made a community a couple days ago called !politicaloptimism@piefed.social

i'm a little nervous about bringing this up since i'm the one of the only people active there right now, but we have a "Seeking Optimism" flair for people who are concerned about things and want assurance for the most sensational narratives over what's happening.

Please keep it and I would even say to enforce it more strictly because I see so many question that I would categorize as US politics that are still allowed.

PieFed has already implemented a feature which allows mods to move posts from one community to another. Lemmy and NodeBB are also working on this feature.

Ideally we choose a community where these posts are moved to, that way any great discussions aren't lost and they can carry on in the proper community.

https://piefed.social/comment/9641830

There are other communities to discuss politics, usa or any country. I say keep politics out.

I'll put it this way. I would prefer zero politics. If you allow them I'm gone.

People who want to talk politics can easily create their own place to do so and nothing is preventing them from joining other places that are political discussion havens.

I think it’s a great rule!

To me, the links to alternate communities are essential. They allow you to set restrictions while still maintaining a helpful atmosphere. Sometimes, people have legitimate, good-faith questions, and don’t know where to ask them. Those links help demonstrate a real concern for the users. Well done!

Keep

I really like how this rule turned out on UK subreddits like r/casualUK. It makes for a much more relaxing community.

Please please pleeeease keep it.

Edit: If possible, disallow politics in general.

Keep the rule as is. US politics already gets brought up enough already.

Keep.

Political questions are almost always either bait or pure laziness

Yeah keep it. The pedo dictatorship can be discuss in other communities.

it make sense on a niche community, but an ask anything community it will just devolve into politics eventually anyways.

Keep the rule and LOL @ "orange lardsack"

I think it should be expanded into a rule of no politics in general. While the us politcs have the most effect(are most know worldwide) EU poltics and so on should also not be discussed here imo

Keep it. There's more than enough places to discuss politics.

Fuck America, that's my take.

25 years is pretty extreme, it's not like we need to wait decades for whole fields of research to occur before we have our own opinions--we're not academics with a responsibility to not spout random bullshit. Being randos on the internet, spouting bullshit is actually one of our primary activities.

4 years is probably sufficient to keep the volume reasonably balanced.

I had an issue where the politics community did not allow discussion posts and ask lemmy did not allow politics and it was like. what the heck can I discuss this. that being said I would prefer for politics communities to allow for discussion posts than politics in general ask lemmy.

Where do you draw the line between world news and politics? I mean the president launching airstrikes on Iran for Israel's forever war, is that politics? The US annexing Greenland? The US bullying the EU into letting tech run roughshod over their users?

What about the EU imposing age checks and chatcontrol as a trojan horse to get inside liberal democracy to id every account and every ip and connect it to id cards and likeness, and run everything a person does or says through AI threat detection, run by Palantir type organizations, to make secret social scores to be used in secret in myriad ways against people in ways they can never know and not challenge? Is that politics?

It's impossible to extract world news from politics completely is it not? I personally have been ignoring whatever dumbass shit the president has been saying, and political news myself, just trying to follow events, but you can't separate them completely.

Maybe you could have one day a week where it's allowed? The constant barrage of US politics can be exhausting, but there can definitely be some interesting questions about it.

Keep the rule as it is, and take those kinds of discussions in communities meant for political discussion. There's already enough of US politics everywhere else.

Everything is politics and anyone who thinks it isn't needs to check their privilege.

So. In my experience, places with a generic "No politics" rule tend to become Nazi bars very quickly. That's not the case here, partly (I think) because it specifies US politics. Makes it more clear that this isn't a place where the only genders are "Male" and "Political," even if that kind of is the case in the US.

I think something akin to "Nothing about any current or former politician, or government entity" could be a way to allow discussions about certain parts of politics without others. In the communities (non-lemmy) I've run that's the usual rule I have alongside some others that aren't relevant here.

I would mention that word filters exist, but this post is a great example of why those don't work very well in a lot of cases. "The daft orange lardsack" is a case where self-censorship ends up leading to word filters being less effective. It's also a great way to showcase that you think body shaming is fine in certain circumstances. I, personally, disagree, and think that we can talk about his actions without mentioning his weight, but y'know. What do I know

Today, everything is political.

More and more people assign identities to themselves based on what someone said else said, what products they enjoy, or what their beliefs are.

As an example, disease, technology, food, and the weather are all political topics.

As long as "no ethics" doesn't become a new rule, I'm okay with this.

Politics is scifi for dummies.