The fact that Fortnite has been going THIS STRONG for THIS LONG, and is still basically the most profitable competitive online game ever just proves that none of that shit is necessary.
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Its fun that all the things that requite secure boot and TPM are things I just don't want anyways.
Fuck em, I switched to linux anyway.
I'm playing it, but in Oceania there's only a small community so I get stuck in a lot of PvP servers. lately there's been a trio who are getting together in Solo to pick on people which is bullshit.
Not sure if The Finals (Embark's other game) has a bigger base in oceania or not, but it's free, proton platinum, and has also some pretty sweet gameplay.
The annoying part is this doesn't stop cheating, just pisses off the regular users.
Doesn’t it? I can’t find any industry stats. One thing I count on is companies to be self-interested. I don’t think they would use these anti-cheats unless they worked.
So there's a few ways I’ve been pondering to take this discussion.
Much like how there are users that create software cracks for games, and the game dev uses more sophisticated forms of DRM. There has been an similar arms race between software developers for game cheats. (Imagine an ouroboros) The attacker has the advantage; it's much cheaper to attack than defend.
There has been a new trend of hardware based cheating. Aimbot controllers, expansion cards that let another computer read memory values from ram, poisoned random number generators, remote USB controller debugging, etc.
What kernel level anticheats that enforce secureboot and TPM requirements are hoping to achieve is enforcing the attestation feature of the operating system (typically Windows) that the preboot environment has not been manipulated. Manipulating the preboot environment would allow an attacker to gaslight the kernel level anticheat into believing everything’s fine.
This does little to resolve hardware level cheating. (It does help with stopping early expansion cards from loading modules into memory) What's worse is secureboot+tpm is a defeated technology, relying on security patches to resolve these flaws. However, if your goal is to eliminate knowledgable adversaries they are just going to buy a motherboard with a secureboot issue and do it anyways, and the anticheat developer has no means to reliably triage that against an user with an older or insecure computer.
The cobra effect of anticheat tools like these are they typically eliminate linux players and users with misconfigured or legacy hardware. (such as someone who has installed Windows without using UEFI) These invasive anticheats load before windows at the same time as hardware drivers. (That spinny screen before you get into your desktop). If the anticheat tool malfunctions at this stage it take the whole computer down with it, an expensive problem for a ordinary user that needs hire tech support. And in the case of vanguard it downloads software updates at this point too, if you have slow internet or the update is huge you're stuck waiting to use your computer. And it doesn't even matter if you weren’t intending to play games at that point.
You might draw the conclusion that PC gaming is a dead fish from this information. But an important take away is that some of these issues are present on consoles as well thanks to how share the same framework of ordinary computers or smartphones.
There's other games in town.
And they all require secure boot too
There's less than 10 that require secure boot, and they're all toxic moneygrab multiplayer shooters.
Compared to the 10's of thousands of gamed on Steam that don't require secure boot, that a far cry from "they all requure secure boot".
But go ahead. Lick the boots harder
I’m sorry, I was being sarcastic. I know there’s only a handful of games that require it (for now), but I was 100% not sincere. Didn’t think this needed a /s but the downvotes tell a diff story
How are they money grabs? Fortnite and valorant(only 2 games I can think of that are / are going to do this) are completely free with the option to buy cosmetics that don't help you in anyway competitively.
All the more reason to not use the epic games store...
Another reason not to play this game. I dual booted Windows because of this game having a pretty decent PvE mode, though they don't give a shit about it anymore.
PVE mode? You mean the original game?
I've heard you can play it on linux running the android version.
Tim "Stop bullying grok for making cp" Sweeny strikes again
Fuck them. I played for my computer, it uses my electricity and my internet. It better do as I please!
I would honestly prefer if they installed a boot drive with their own sandboxed OS than install this on my primary OS.
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