morphballganon comments on Fortnite the Latest To Demand Secure Boot and TPM for Anti-Cheat

[+] morphballganon@mtgzone.com -12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Cheaters are getting more and more numerous all the time; they have to take steps to not be completely overrun.

My wife got eliminated by a 100% invisible player a week or so ago. No in-game item or event makes you completely invisible like that. The stealth splash item and the hide-and-seek event are both imperfect camoflage. So clearly this player was hacking. If she encountered players like that in every game, she'd quit, understandably.

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[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] T156@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There's nothing that hardware-level anti-cheat can do against the monitor having a feature that highlights other people in a game, for example. The computer wouldn't be able to tell.

The only thing that this might stop is someone using something like Cheat Engine to give themselves infinite health or something like that, but I would be a little surprised if that was the common means of cheating these days, compared to something just looking at the screen and putting a helpful overlay on top.

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[–] 7toed@midwest.social 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

WTF

"Character highlighting", "flashbang recovery", they just had to come up with some corporate sounding names for common cheats lmao. We're just back to LAN parties as far as I'm concerned, sucks for the competitive scene though.

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[–] murmelade@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Funny asterisk below the examples too

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

See, this always annoys me. Game info, yes, is hard: The game needs to send info about the guy behind the wall to your client, so it can draw shadows, play their subtle footsteps, etc. But game logic, like “isPlayerInvisible”, should NOT be hackable like that. That means the hacker’s client sent game state var “Hey, I am invisible now” to the server, and the server just said “Sure, okay . Hey, player 87, you are now being shot by an invisible player.”

Imagine if you sent all state variables while banking. “I send $5 to my savings account, which leaves my checking with $8 trillion.”

It generally comes down to developer laziness; transmit all info, trust everything, and rely 100% on the anticheat, so the game code can stay flexible and run in all locations.