Spacebar sounded really promising when I checked them out years ago.

The big Discord.com features currently left unimplemented or with partial implementations are: Voice/Video support (WebRTC protocol support implemented, but lacking UDP protocol implementation)

Unfortunately, seems like it’s still not at a point where it could cover basic Discord functionality.

Edit: I should be clear, I’m not trying to discourage it. I really hope it succeeds to the goal of parity with Discord! Love to hear from someone who has used it a bit.

I mean, it certainly is an alternative to all three morons using discord as some sort of forum for an app or similar. The same way discord is the worst for easily searchable info like a forum is basically the converse for discourse. And exactly the opposite for real time chat obviously.

He at least mentions outright it's a forum tool. The real problem is having to include it because people misuse discord.

Kind of like anyone using SharePoint for anything. It's not meant for it.

Looking at its Wikipedia entry, it looks like a reasonable alternative, I hadn't looked into it before.

Have you had the chance to try it out?

Is SimpleX based on Matrix? I have this recollection that it is, but I don't if it's a false memory or not.

Either they edited it to add Zulip or you missed it.

Zulip is literally the 5th thing in the article.

Lots of communities use discord as a replacement for a forum despite it not being fit for it at all

I also want this suite of things. I stream movies to friends, share games I'm playing...

These are core features to me now in a robust chat client

By reducing a complex topic down to one score that has "features" as only one of many factors, so that "openness" and "safety" push it to the top.

I mean, for at least the first five letters, I can't even tell the difference.

looking to ditch Discord want live chat, audio/video calls, and screen sharing... Or am I just in the minority here?

I'll keep you company in the minority, since that's what I want too

Live chat is all I ever use but you never know

I used to use to for audio calls now I use it more for a forum.

I would bet on the screen sharing not being that big of a requirement for most people. Voice and text chats though? Yeah, that's the minimum.

I thought Discourse was bought by Roblox, merged into Roblox, and then discontinued outside of Roblox?

I'm thinking of something else, I think.

This is misinformation.

You can self host it, for free.

Pripietary...

If they enable that and iron out the iOS app, it'd be a surefire migration for my whole crew.

They're having issues with their email provider due to the hug of death effect, they did not expect to get so much traffic so fast

i know, but for casual conversations and banter and a place where to store some knowledge about some topics forums were awesome.

Discord is just objectively terrible for knowledge. It's not search indexable or archivable. It's more or less a memory hole.

They slowly ditched better services for convenience. The account/login struggle is the barrier to entry that myspace/facebook/discord "solved". A unique login for each forum, a different set of rules between each, some auto-deletion of supposedly inactive accounts, no photo hosting capability until death bed, yet another set of credentials for the latest photo host, and so on. Nothing was immediate because it took time to build the replacement communities and libraries. The problem is, it took years to realize how inaccessible the information became.

maybe you are right. i think people just forgot about it because of all the noise and because all these new platforms force bad habits. just imagine if those platforms didn't exist where would openai and anthropic be without all that stackexchange/stackoverflow data scraping.

I mean the masses are pretty fucking stupid and I don't think following them is a good strategy for life.

Also, reddit was and somehow still is pretty popular and stack exchange is being killed by AI not discord, so that's not really accurate anyways.

oh yeah!

Lmao that is the exact program that came to mind.

Pidgin was good; it did what needed to be done and wasn't that bad at it.

The last service I was using it for was a self-hosted XMPP server for a small group of friends that were all refugees of other defunct services. We ended up finally moving to Slack or Discord (the group bifurcated along game-playing lines).

Now I've got to find something new yet again!

I tried pidgin and it didn't land with me. I always went back to Trillian.

I can only assume it's on purpose so average users really understand it wrong to avoid the associated negative view. Clever, really. But absolutely evil.