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That's one of the boxes we could use, but I think it hasn't worked. There's 2 more, and I don't have a lot of faith in the jury box in this system.
A fellow Four Boxes of Liberty proponent I see!
...there are going to be further elections?...
Maybe, but only under tight voter control by the American GeStaPo. Just don't tick the wrong box, or you'll end up in south America.
If there will be a ballot box in Nazi America. One where you can actually vote.
Given the power and budget given to the New American GeStaPo, I doubt there will be anything like free and fair votes in the near future.
Yeah. The ballot box method is over guys. Any vote that's even close is gonna be "guarded" by ICE agents. They're about to hire every racist Trump supporter in every state with their budget. This is it. We are past the Rubicon and I can't even see it when I look back at the horizon.
This administration is not worried about votes.
I read that they must pay a price at the bullet box and got excited for a moment. Voting them out, really? They just cemented their power, why would they allow peaking voting to get in the way of that?
He's CORRECT! The ONLY Course of Action for the Lawmakers who just MURDERED MILLIONS OF AMERICANS and CONTINUES BREAKING THE LAW is to Wait until we can TRY to Vote them Out Legally and Safely! That's the ONLY thing we can do and if ANYONE suggests Something REMOTELY Different or Violent they're a PAID BOT!
See I’d stop after “must pay a price” and just kinda see what karma has in mind.
probably the same price sanders himself paid... twice
Yeah, problem is it’s still 16 months until Election Day, and 18 until the next Congress is seated. That’s a lot of time for this current government to continue to do harm. I really wish we had recall elections at the national level.
That's where the resistance has to last 16 to 40 months, slowing down and making people aware enough of these things:
- how unserious about budgets Republicans are
- how much they are trying to punish regular people (poor middle and moderately wealthy class),
- while also looking to use the they are spending to subsidize companies, multi-millionaires and billionaires.
No words spent around reforming the democrats and getting them back on track, I see.
That conversation has to happen now as well. But the points I raised are related to despair of the Reconciliation bill passing and those climate setbacks.
Democrats' window of opportunity to change ahead of midterms is NOW until the primaries. (I've said my spiel about it before in this thread)
The Democrats needed to all vote against this bill. And I don't just mean in the Senate. The House too.
Did any Democrats vote for the bill?
No. But apparently we should be talking about reforming the Democrats when discussing this bill passed by almost every Republican.
Because the last 2 dem presidencies choosing not to improve their constituants material conditions and instead send cops to kick the shit out of their most activated supporters while begging them for money and slaughtering brown people in the middle east is why 2 generations dont see the dem party as a means to enacting positive social change.
Sorry Bernie, I think we need to start considering some other boxes now. Not just the ballot variety.
MUST PAY A PRICE!! (at the ballot box)
Love you, Bernie, and thanks for being a decent guy, but that’s some GWB-era thinking that’s going to end with your base in camps.
How can we be sure that the winner actually won? I don’t trust us elections anymore.
Poll tax? Republicans love that idea!!!
They need removed from power, and I'd strongly prefer an inquiry be run and everyone who voted to pass it have a lovely time in American Spandau along with ICE.
I find it astounding that Americans STILL think there's democracy in America.
It's gone and it's not coming back for a long, long time.
And that's why many people won't vote. Defeatism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
We need to stop being afraid of primarying shitty candidates.
We the people aren’t afraid of this, but if the establishment dems catch wind of a primary challenger who’s left of center, they will come down so hard on them with millions in DNC attic ads and literally try to cancel the primary if they have to to keep them out.
The key is to vote for the left of center candidate regardless of how much donors spend. Show them that we are going to vote for who we want and that they can't derail it no matter how hard they try. We need to get comfortable with saying "no thanks, we're good" when they try their bullshit. This is literally what happened with Mamdani, and why both the DNC and Republicans are freaking out about it.
Yep, do this every time. Unfortunately voter turnout in primaries is so abysmal that the ad spends seem to often work. By the numbers, the candidate who spends more money wins over 95% of the time. It’s a depressing reality that has led Dems down a very dark path of chasing donor money and abandoning their constituents in the process.
I’m apparently a freak of American politics and do basic due diligence to research beforehand if the primary is contested and find the most progressive contender possible, but I think most people just don’t give care enough to do this sort of thing and usually just vote for the name they see more on TV. So, I think increased civic engagement is another very important part of solving these issues.
We should invest in our electoral process and make it the envy of democracies around the globe, and as Americans, should be damn proud to do so.
It’s why Mamdani’s win was such a big deal. The establishment was all about Cuomo and they still aren’t lining up behind the voters pick.
The thing is it looks like the party will be happy to let their bigger names just refuse to endorse him. Media will spend the next few months attacking him for being a scary socialist. And the dnc will suddenly lose track of their “vote blue no matter who” bumper stickers and be happy to fundraise for cuomo as an independent.
I’m sure though they will send Mamdani and old button making machine or something so they can claim that “this is why we don’t run far left candidates, maybe next cycle we could run Liz Cheney instead!”
Then why have Congress vote at all? Why didn't Trump just use an EO to put all the provisions he favored in place?
...every bad policy decision has a video of Bernie railing against it 25 years earlier...
except for genocide, thats his one weakness. He says the word makes him queasy so he wont say it and doesnt think Israel is committing one. Otherwise I'm a fan of his work.
He’s Jewish bro you got to cut him a little slack, albeit not a lot, on that one.
As should every Democrat.
Give us proper open and honest primaries, bitches. This strong Dem isn’t falling for it any more. Represent the People, not your donors, or lose your jobs. It’s quite simple.
I have no idea how Bernie has kept fighting the good fight in the face of 60 years of seeing the worst of humanity constantly try to fuck everything up. He's a better man than I am.
Not trying to butter you up, but if I could speak for him I would say you may surprise yourself by the end.
I suspect that exercising good will in the face of endlessly variable forms of human selfishness is in many ways like learning to run marathons. Until you’ve run that distance, it seems like a superhuman effort, but in hindsight you can’t imagine enjoying anything more. You do it because you like it. It becomes its own reward.
I’m just saying I think you’re capable of a more of the good fight than you might give yourself credit for, and we all need to be reminded of this from time to time.
Republican legislators keep getting away with awful shit. I don't see there being a change whenever they vote for extremely unpopular bills because they have an R next to their names. In the eyes of the average brain dead voter, that's good enough to keep endorsing them every time they drag their dumb asses to the poles. Ted Cruz should've been primaried after abandoning his constituents for Cancun during a snow storm but he's still around. Lauren Boebert should've lost her position after the Beetlejuice blow job but she's still in Congress. MTG's incompetence and bathshit crazy stuff she says about Jewish space lasers hasn't cost her anything yet. I could go on.
Meanwhile we have the DNC eating itself over anything that goes against the wishes of those at the top. Mamdani is practically unrecognized by the DNC establishment. Sanders faced the combined efforts of the Democratic party keeping him from getting a fair chance at the 2016 primaries. Al Greene was censured by his peers for rightfully calling out Trump on his Medicaid lies. AOC keeps getting snubbed in committee picks for geriatrics that die months later. It's so hard to stay positive in light of all the shit that keeps going on. I really want things to change for the better but it's so hard to keep holding on to hope.
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