The propaganda is working guys! Next up WW3. Oh wait, it is already happening.
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They still agree with usa foreign policies towards non western countries
No shit... threaten to invade an ally, what did they expect? and in my opinion, not enough backlash still
The backlash is still happening. IMHO this is better than a knee jerk response.
Question is what they're going to do about it, though.
The EU is just about as integrated with the US economy as any two continents can be. Nevermind the US military presence.
Is that going to change? Or will Europeans just feel grumpy into the foreseeable future?
will Europeans just feel grumpy into the foreseeable future?
Speaking as a middle aged Dane with anti-authoritarian and antimonarchist views, that'll DEFINITELY be the case regardless 🤷
US power stems directly from its dollar position. Its status as reserve currency is a force multiplier. The immediate step is to reduce exposure to it, which disproportionately reduces US power in the short term.
The longer this goes on, the more systems decouple from the USA and correspondingly the less power and influence they have.
What can an ordinary person do about this? I moved my savings to ETFs that specifically exclude the US the moment Trump was elected. But my debit card is connected to Mastercard and there's no europan alternative in my country. Or is it more about the big picture and not what I personally do or avoid?
It's definitely something that needs to be attacked at a systems level, not a personal one. Divesting your own investments is a small step. Writing your MP is another step. Telling your union's retirement fund that you'd like them to divest is another step.
Many raindrops make an ocean, I suppose. But there are some people who control rivers that we can influence in a small way.
US power stems directly from its dollar position.
Soft power stems from its ability to cut individual nation-states off from global trade. But if you take a hard look at, say, North Korea or Cuba or Venezuela or Iran, you'll notice that it's not simply access to legal international markets that causes their poverty. These countries are physically encircled by US military. Cuba, in particular, is ringed in by US warships with an entrenched beach head at Guantanamo Bay.
And it goes without saying that these countries are constantly under threat of espionage, plagued by disinformation, and periodically sabotaged by US special forces.
The dollar position is a consequence of these interventions, dating back to the Cold War Era.
The longer this goes on, the more systems decouple from the USA and correspondingly the less power and influence they have.
It's been going on since Truman. Arguably back to McKinley. The US has been a fountain of militant white nationalism for centuries.
Meanwhile, European corporate media seems vastly more paranoid and fearful of infiltration by Eastern adversaries. Muslims coming up through Turkiye or crossing north of the Mediterranean. Russians driving tanks all the way from Moscow to Berlin. Chinese businessmen stealing European jobs, Orientalizing markets, and corrupting the fragile innocent young minds of the liberal intelligentsia.
I just don't see decoupling happening (in my lifetime). Trump will lose his grip on power, US neoliberals will retake the federal government, and we'll have another wave of "normalization" that settles anxious Europeans just long enough for Palantir and News Corp and JP Morgan and Microsoft to secure their hooks a bit deeper.
I just don’t see decoupling happening (in my lifetime).
This is a bit of a "all or nothing" fallacy. It admits to degrees. It's like someone saying that they can't be vegetarian because they like bacon. Dude, just cut out everything except bacon, it's fine.
Countries reducing their exposure to USD is still a good step, given how unreliable a partner the USA has been the last decade. You don't have to fully dump all your USD bonds to add resilience to your financial system.
I don't see "normalization" with Canada happening after trump has gone. Sure, relations will improve but the distrust will last for decades and there will continue to be a divergence economically, militarily, and culturally. We can never again allow ourselves to be integrated with another country to the point of dependency.
That's going to be a long period of untangling and retracting. But the goal for now isn't too disentangle completely. It's not a hot conflict yet. It's to get enough manoeuvering space and alternatives in place that if the USA threatens, they can't threaten critical things and shifting to other suppliers is easily done.
Best we can do is to support whomever is leading the opposition to tramp...please...anyone?
The US in a nutshell, Fool me once, shame on you, but teach a man to fool me and I shall be fooled for the rest of my life.
No wonder European states and companies everywhere are looking into detachment plans. Germany is switching to Linux. And I'm sure they'll be able to sell their infrastructure and knowledge to other countries looking to make the switch as well.
Europe had Nazis. Like a cancer, they needed radical excision. We know that relapse requires urgent aggressive management.
I guess Europe should have been blackmailing our politicians with trafficked children
Putin and Netenyahu both will be thrilled. A US unconstrained by NATO consensus is a much more effective slave for Israel, and Putin can do more land theft and bullying as US soft power disappears. Official Israel policy is to balance both the US and Russia and not pick a side. And Epstein seemed to have both Israeli and Russian compromat connections.
Good Europe needs to a grow a pair and stand up for its sovereignty apart from the US. As it has been for far too many years the US has had way too much power in this regard.
All the moves of a ‘very stable genius’!!
This is one of those Trumpisms that derive from his profound ignorance, because he beat up some nerd to do literally every homework assignment in his life. A famous one is "Bigly," because he didn't understand when he first heard it that they were saying "Big League."
For a long time, I wondered what "very stable genius" meant, and it finally dawned on me. He must have heard someone described as a "veritable genius," and he decided to apply it to himself, and it garbled out as "very stable genius."
That’s true, trump it’s genuinely an idiot I think and yeah he is surrounded by ghouls that are not, buy what could be the point in turning everyone against the us posting of lots of people in the us as well, and we’ll… that’s about it?
But maybe I’m just dumb idk
Of course he is an enemy of US workers, like all US presidents.
But I am not sure that he is an enemy of US elites.
Why, please elaborate if you're gonna say some batshit crazy stuff like that.
Please tell me your wacky conspiracy so I can laugh at you, and you can struggle to understand what fascism is, while living under it.
I wonder why hitler would "destabilize germany", its because he was working for russia right?
Please abolish nato 🙏. Please, It would be so fucking sick. Just end it.
The Greenland thing was never going to happen. It was all bullshit meant to distract. In other words, the orange rapist with incontinence and dementia, ruined the relationship between the US and its closest allies just so that Americans wouldn't focus on the Epstein files and the fast rollout of fascist policies at home.
Still, after all this, almost half of the population would vote for him again. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

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