I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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    Too much HDR. I can see why they thought it's AI.

    Still a nice shot. The composion and framing is nice.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s not HDR. It’s a single shot, slightly underexposed so we don’t lose the highlight detail. The rest of the work could have been done in a physical darkroom. But thank you.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Honestly, deep fried images usually give me a headache but this one is actually pretty nice. I think the horrible HDR gives it a painting like quality.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It’s not HDR, it’s a single shot and no tone mapping has been done. Just levels adjustment that could have been done in a physical darkroom.

    The number of things that confuse people in this image really surprises me, but I’m assuming you’re talking about the light beam, which is the sun raking concrete at a very sharp angle. The detail it’s exposing on the concrete is actually just like that, even in the raw image.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    HDR would have oversaturated the colors of the little green plants popping up. I don't know what people are on about there.

    Personally, I think HDR works best for images that are almost devoid of color. Like I did the one below of the pillars at the Wisconsin state capitol:

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  • [–] 76 points 1 year ago* (19 children)

    I remember trying to warn people on Reddit that their anti-AI crusades were going to hurt real people making real art, especially surrealists, and got banned from a bunch of art subs for being “pro-AI” as a result. Actually, they phrased it in far more hurtful and inflammatory ways, like “advocating theft.” Apparently caring about not hurting real human beings making real human art is “advocating theft.”

    I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

    P.S. This photo is beautiful and I’m happy you had a mind to capture it and share it. Thank you.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I get these kind of reactions on Lemmy all the time. I say something that isn't the exact party line, people assume I'm their worst enemy even though our disagreement is very minor in the broad scheme.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    There's always an US vs THEM element to any culture, but to me it seems like there's been a relatively recent social trend (as in like the last decade) that anybody who isn't jumping up and down waving pompoms for the one right side of an issue is presumed to be an extremist for the polar opposite wrong side, and all their other views about the world and their overall way of life are probably also despicable. It's very simple binary thinking and works well with memes - minimal information to take in, quick and easy to process, one obvious right answer. It also fits gaming mindset very well - is this NPC on my side or should I kill him?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    This really fits my two hot takes about how we need to fix the left:

    • (1) end purity tests: an imperfect ally is still an ally.
    • (2) we need to appeal to centrists more; ± straight cis white men feel alienated when we talk about privilege as though it's a bad thing. We could talk about privilege as though it's a great thing that you should be proud of instead. Then we'd have privileged allies, which would be really helpful.
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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    It's the same shit on lemmy

    I was watching a video yesterday where the video author said it was sketchy that another ytber had used an AI voice but still credited the original voice actor the Ai voice was based on, the voice actor also chimed in that they agreed and were still being paid even though the AI voice was being used.

    Literally every time I see arguments against AI from creative it's because losing income/stealing, he hit both those and yet that is still not good enough.

    The goal posts will ever shift and the rage will never end.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before 'generative AI' was even a term.

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    Yep.

    It's not the best upscale TBH.

    Hence I brought up redoing it with some of the same techniques (oldschool vapoursynth processing + manual pixel peeping) mixed with more modern deinterlacing and better models than Waifu2X. Maybe even a finetune? Ban.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    In my own anecdotal experience, it’s been a lot better here, but I’m sure instance, communities, etc all have an impact. I have noticed a slight uptick in toxicity recently, but once I started using Voyager’s tagging feature I realized the perpetrators are almost always the same 4 people.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago

    Thank you! And yes, I mean I realize it’s a two sided battle. I legitimately hate gen AI and what it was done to the art world. My current career is in the process of being completely devoured by AI and taking photos is something that brings me a lot of joy and connects me to the real world, so it’s infuriating to have both the loss of my career and denigration of my photography due to AI.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Real talk! I got banned for "advocating violence". Anyone who knows me would find that fucking laughable at best, and completely dishonest at worst. Been a few months now and I can sense an improvement in myself. I get more shit done and hate people a lot less.

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    There is no way this lighting is real. Given the follow up pic of the same environment I take it back its correct.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    You can see particles on the concrete wall in the background. You can see how the physical objects in the image interact with one another. AI is good at replicating compositions, but you spot it by the details. At least, for now. This image is definitely real.

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    I don't think its silly at all, even tho I think this image is real I still applaud the zero tolerance rule enforcement.

    The reason this got removed isn't that mods are powertripping, its because AI is such a menace. Place blame where it belongs.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hard dissent. First, Ban content not users. But even if you are banning users, just a quick detour through OPs history would have been enough to see it as a legit account, with a human behind it.. Plus, the picture surely has proving metadata, and detailed pixels.

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    I highly doubt AI would properly generate a Fibonacci sequence in the pinecones.

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    Welcome to lemmy

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    I have a mental image of you in a basement sweatshop in Philadelphia- the air is full of smoke and there's a constant barrage of German speeches and gunfire being played over the loudspeaker, broken only by the occasional steam whistle. You take a longing glance out the window, wishing you were on one of the higher floors so you could jump. And there is it.

    Pinecone.

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    The default subs are controlled by people involved with karma farming. Some of them are so bad that the mods will ban anyone with a high number of upvotes to prevent them from competing with the bots.

    Funny enough, I bet the same mods will let a bot repost your pic in a few months.

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    r/pics is a massive joke anyways. Screw that sub!

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The Holy Pine Cone of Allentown.

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    conus pineae divinae

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    TIL what a window well is. I would honestly love to see what it looks like from outside. Is there some kind of covered up grate on top?

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  • [–] [S] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Here it is several years later. It’s an office that I rent. The landlord apparently does not care about maintaining the windows.

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    Sometimes. The smaller (typical?) ones tend to either be fully covered or have a grate. Many are big enough to stand in, to have plants/garden, or even be used as emergency exits. And might not have any covering.

    This one almost definitely had a grate of some kind.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    To be fair, I totally understand why people think it's AI. Between the phone camera processes and the extreme postprocessing, this looks more deep fried than some memes I've seen. It almost looks like it's got a cartoon filter applied.

    Add on the fact that OP is trying hard to down play how much editing has been done, it starts to feel like it doesn't add up. If OP posted the unedited photo to show the bad phone sharpening and admitted how much editing was done on top of that, people would understand what they are looking at.

    Don't get me wrong, it looks cool, but when someone says "oh, no I just took this with my phone", I look at that and think that's not the whole truth.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    Thanks for your meaningful, informed, and helpful contribution.

    Of course it’s edited. Pro tip: every image is edited. Nothing anyone sees is raw from the sensor. It’s all completely arbitrary. Even people who shoot film show edited photos, they just offload the editing to the film lab. Someone else is doing the processing for them.

    Even direct from a digital camera to jpeg, the camera is performing countless transformations and adjustment s before burning to jpeg. See film emulations on Fuji cameras for example.

    The entire point of photography is to present to people a compelling vision that feels the way you did when you saw it.

    That being said, this is basic curve and a vignette.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Bro got caught and is trying to say everything is edited.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, it's basic settings in like every fucking phone for the last 15 years? Get over yourselves - you aren't judges at National Geographic photographer of the year, it's a neat pic dude wanted to share.

    Let people share neat things.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The interesting part about doing a vignette is that it shows up in ELA when you run it through any one of the dozen doctored image detector websites, the re-encode around the changes shows up in the data when it inspects them, this image has zero error level deviation.

    That's interesting because it also doesn't appear as AI at all through the AI detection tests. But here you're saying it's actually edited. Maybe the CDN was heavy-handed enough to destroy the ELA. Zip up your edited copy and give that to the masses. The nay-sayers can run it through Fotoforensics and see it's manually edited. You have already passed all the AI detection pages with 0% AI probability.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    "Obviously" has been a conclusive reason to condemn things since social media began. So of course "obviously AI" falls under that impeccable standard.

    Also just curious, is taking photos with an iPhone something people apologize for now? I don't keep up with all the latest acceptibility rules.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was more to denote the presence of Apple’s processing algorithms, which are possibly part of why people think it’s AI or painted. Lots of people on Reddit thought it was a painting and some pointed to the painterly look of details when zoomed into.

    Lots of discussion about that being the result of Apple’s fusion algo, which merges many rapidly taken exposures to eliminate noise, at the expense of real detail.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I took it as them sharing the hardware specs for other curious photographers, but you might be on to something.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Nice, thanks for sharing! Maybe it's even something for c/accidentalrenaissance?

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    Just as the prophecy foretold!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Lol when I first saw iPhone my brain read it as the default signature iPhones put in emails.

    Sent from my iPhone.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Quest item.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I won, but at what cost? My fellow cones perished.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Welcome home then.

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    Thomas Kinkade's pinecone.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    serves you right for posting something so lewd.

    stupid sexy pinecones...

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