I think that's by design, no need for gas chambers when you can just tee up mother nature.

Whoa, I hope that catches on. Fr, that's spot on.

Alligator

is this a reference to lizard people?

💯%. the US was heavily isolationist at the start of WWII, and pretty anti-Semitic. for example, the St. Louis, a boat full of Jewish refugees, was turned away from the US and Canada in 1939 - and turned back to Europe, with many Jews eventually imprisoned and murdered by the Nazis. there were also the blackshirts in the UK, who were pro-Nazi, and PM Chamberlain had a peace treaty drawn up with Hitler. and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with the Soviets, of course.

so if the Nazis had been content to murder only German, Austrian and Czech Jews, they would have gotten away with it.

on the other hand, Nazi ideology (e.g. "lebensraum" and their belief in the destiny of the Aryan race to conquer the "inferior" races) drove them to war, to invade Poland and to break their pact with the Soviets. and they also spent tons of resources on the Holocaust, at the expense of their military.

so basically yeah, isolationist Nazis would have totally survived, but otoh Nazis aren't isolationists.

Nazi Germany kinda had to start wars because their spending wasn't sustainable: they had significant yearly deficits and they were always looking for ways to push forward the day that Germany would become insolvent. They stole the assets of outgroups like the Jewish minority, financially raided the banks, had the treasury print money to pay of debts, implemented price and wage controls to stave off inflation because of printing too much money, ... None of it was sustainable in the long term. The longer term plan was to conquer other nations and plunder those.

And very unfortunate for the world today: the spending by usa republicans isn't sustainable either + the usa has a very big army. Some people would say that the usa republicans couldn't possibly be that stupid to rob or invade their peaceful trade partners, but ... a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.

Trump keeps talking about annexing Canada though. Hitler didn’t need to invade Poland or any of the other nations he Blitzkrieged, but there it is.

He has fallen quiet about that though. I wonder if someone with an ounce of historical knowledge told him that if you’re going to fascist, don’t start wars at the same time.

Honestly, it started sooner I think, or more to the point, it's had this sort of tendency lurking in the background for it's whole history to lesser and greater extents, the last few decades until the current one just being something of a lower period that makes this stand out by contrast.

After all, these aren't exactly the first concentration camps built in or by the United States, the country has a history with forced labor and institutionalized racial supremacy so severe that the country literally split itself apart over it at one point, and it's founding and expansion to it's current borders involved the genocide of those already living on the land in question.

The silver lining to all this I guess, if you can call it that, is that this history and the fact we even had something of a relative lul in all this, implies that as bleak as things look, the racism, nativism, and disenfranchisement can be squashed down again, because it's been done here before.

O'bama

This is killing me lol

We couldn't find any builders for the concentration camps as the builders are in concentration camps.

Everything is a grift with them, even genocide. They are probably embezzling most of the funds.

Something I've noticed is that the Trump regime is doing fascism with absolutely no style. The Nazis were awful, but they looked good being awful, literally, as in they had Hugo Boss doing their fashion and Volkswagens to drive around in. Trump just has the cheapest stuff that still works, tents for the camps and generic military gear for the secret police. I think it says a lot about the nature of the Trump regime.

The Germans built death camps.

Trump is building cruelty centres. You don't need much to starve and degrade people. Just cages, bright lights turned on 24/7, and a lack of food and fresh water.

I'm sure these will be upgraded to death camps, but for now they just want to see brown people suffer. Once they get tired of that, they'll start the killing.

In 1933 the first concentration camps also had massive improvised parts. It took about a year for them to be run fully professional. Conditions also became worse over time, with the start of WW2 being a huge step. That was also the start of the extermination camps, which were meant for genocide. Concentration camps were "just" really horrible prisons, which also had criminal and political prisoners, which were actually partly released.

This is just early concentration camp. Good chance it gets worse.

Well, seeing as it already flooded...

The only competent people they have are the ones they want in the camps.

They took a "Death by a thousand cuts" approach to fascism, and we're about 1200 cuts in.

you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.

I can only hope that the body count isn’t as similar as the rest of their playbook.

It is terrifying to consider the very real possibility that the US may have already “deported” thousands of people to a mass grave somewhere. I’m not aware of any evidence of that, but while it would still shock me it would not surprise me.

Ooh, but calling for violence is naughty and will get you banned blah blah blah.

Get your shit together, America.

154 million people voted in 2024. That's a hair over 65% of the voting agreed population. Over half of those people supported this shit stain, and even if they disagree with him on some things now, most will still support and defend him.

My personal objections to participating in a armed resistance aside. No one is looking to organize an armed resistance as far as I'm aware and the concept of organizing such a resistance seems nearly impossible for many reasons.

I've seen a few reports of protesters making things more difficult for ICE, but that's about the most resistance I've seen. I'm starting to see why reasonable Germans didn't rise up, it's not that they agreed or didn't want to, it's difficult to organize a resistance. There needs to be a clear leader, good communication channels, a way to vet those who join, and anything else a military operation needs. And even then, you'd be going up against over half the population and the armed forces. And it would be giving a reason for them to use full military force against the citizens.

There is no good end to this, there is no way to stop this from continuing. I think a lot of people are counting on midterms to bring a peaceful end to this nightmare, I doubt we will have that chance and even if we do, the outcome will not be enough to swing the power.

We're fucked.

you're at the end of that poem. your government is now openly saying they're going to arrest politicians and citizens that don't agree with them

Not to be a pedant but that's the beginning of the poem

Apple pie isn't American, it's origin is in England and the European mainland afterwards.

School shootings are American and they can keep those.

When has America been on the 'right side of history'? It's been humanity's bully ever since WW2, and before that they murdered and displaced the locals. I see this as nothing more than an expression of the well known Anglo-Saxon (read: Germanic) MO/ideology. Idk what's up with them, honestly, but you can count on a majority of them to choose murder and pillage before morals, peace and self-restraint.

i see this posted a lot. so why don't you go do it yourself? i know why: because you KNOW that taking up arms and attacking ICE will make Trump send his army at you to kill you, and all this will accomplish is make you a martyr they can use in propaganda OR ignite a full on civil war. i am tired of seeing this post. stop encouraging people to do things that YOU YOURSELF find unreasonable to do. and if you find it reasonable, than put up and shut up and stop fucking posting about it to look cool. we'll see you on the news.

You would have to ironically genocide half the population, as half of USA is complicit, and evil.