And Lexx in a corner smoking a crack pipe.

Brilliant. And farscape?

I'm not sure Lexx is crack. Maybe ecstasy or something like that. One of the uncomfortably touchy-feely party drugs where you worry that the person on it is going to start tonguing your elbow, and you really just need some personal space.

B5 is somewhere between not trek and good trek. I love it

I love B5. I don't remember any of Lexx, but I think I saw an episode or two as a teen.

LMFAO

I don’t know what STD you’re talking about, but I agree completely. They even made a woman chief of security! Obvious political pandering.

And Picard praising Riker for his insubordination in the very first episode nearly made me gag. It didn’t used to be like this, Captain Kirk would never… well, sometimes… I mean, look, it’s just different when he does it!

Wait a second…

Lower Decks is top tier Star Trek.

The more widespread your Star Trek knowledge, the more you'll enjoy it.

I thoroughly enjoyed Lower Decks, just because it's a comedy doesn't mean it isn't serious sci fi with real stakes like any other trek show. It highlights how absurd the writing of trek throughout can be and still rolls with it, still treating that absurdity with the same seriousness as everything else crazy in the universe.

I really like SNW, as well as your list.

Discovery and Picard were collosal "mehs".

I'm scared to try Starfleet Academy.

While I want to say that the combined effort of JJ Abrams and DIS have thoroughly trampled that possibility. PIC

Discovery soured me so much i haven't watched anything but Picard since.

std and snw suffers from kurtzmans agenda, and poor writing direction. not because its a short season. it was terrible form the get go, snw is somewhat better but the actors are so wooden in thier acting.

i forgot the nutrek has no exploration at all, its just a convoluted Enemy that turns out to be a dud. remember the "burn" its an overgrown manchild that screams and destroys ships in the future. a whole season build up only to drop it the next season.

SNW just seems more like a retread of TOS with Captain Pike

From what very very little I've seen of SNW, it seemed to break the established universe. E.g.: the illogical irrational hyper-emoting vulcans.

I've failed to force myself to keep watching past the first appearance of that.

Picard was pretty bad from start to finish, they dropped the borg alliance the moment season 2 ended. and it was obvious baity to include the "enterprise" crew in the last few episodes.

SNW or Picard... is like choosing which form of torture. How about just "no".

I have yet to watch SNW past the point where the illogical irrational emotional vulcans first appear.

Picard, I endured the lot. Kept trying really really hard to like it, because it has Jean Luc Picard in it. Kept trying really really hard to suspend disbelief and ignore all the dumb. Kept trying to tell myself it had redeemed itself a little bit for season 3. But no. You're right. Cannot build a sound house on such swampy sloppy ground.

It's not trek. None of the Kurtzman dross is trek. Roddenberry spinning so fast in his grave, hook up a dynamo, and we could power a warp drive.

I do wish someone would confront the makers of the Kurtzman crap with the idea "what if all art is a tool of manifestation", and let them face the horror of what they've done.

Pretty much the same. ENT was borderline with their war on terror phase, temporal war and some weird decisions, like introducing the Ferengi at that time... well, maybe I shouldn't scratch the surface too much. But some of it was good enough to make it an acceptable ensemble, at least to me. I've never been a huge fan of the movies but ended up seeing most of them.

But it started to change with the movie in 2009. I didn't like it but it's ok, it's a single movie. I thought I'd wait for the next series but they continued with this kind of movies. Then Discovery happened and I was also disappointed. I still watch reviews of the new stuff and avoid all the crap about being too woke because I know ST has always been woke, but the way the stories are now presented is not piquing my interest. I don't mind preachy Trek, I like it, but IMHO The Orville is doing much better allegories than what modern ST produces. The new stuff seems like an attempt at being action/pop and so far, none of it seems to take place in a world/universe that I would like to know more about. I keep hoping they will fix this and have something different, but aside from LD, it's always more of the same to me.

The last time a Star Trek project piqued my interest, it was Axanar, and the project got sued. Now with the new stories and bagage in the canon universe, I just feel like giving up on it. I was recently watching a new video about a character in Star Trek but it was featuring stuff from the new series, and I just stopped at that point. It feels like it's not for me anymore, and I shouldn't even bother. I'll just keep rewatching the very same list you mentioned, adding LD, and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

Carrie Fisher said she had no memory of making that due to being high off her ass.

You can't have a sequel to Galaxy Quest without Alan Rickman, may he rest in peace. He cannot be replaced.