If he's still a Republican, all he had is a pang of guilt, not a sudden onset of conscience.
It's a start though.
If he's still a Republican, all he had is a pang of guilt, not a sudden onset of conscience.
It's a start though.
He’s probably pulling out because of polling, but regardless, I appreciate him blaming the GOP immigration policies.
more than likely , hes defending johnathon ross as his defense attorney.
Tbf everyone has the right to a fair trial, John Adams himself even defended the British soldiers in The Boston Massacre. Even this loser deserves a trial (and should get convicted imo based on the evidence we've seen already, but still he deserves a trial as does everyone else).
He knows he has exactly zero chance of winning the state when his party is the one sending murdering thugs to it's streets. Now he gets to pretend to be a good person and avoid an embarrassing loss.
I don't doubt that this guy actually feels anger and is actually struggling with his feelings of guilt and some kind of morality crisis.
But that's only because this is actually happening to him and the people he knows firsthand. Because that's how Republicans are, these types of actions are fine when it happens to others but the minute it affects them personally, then and only then are they all of the sudden concerned about things.
They just don't have any sense of empathy or thinking about others at all. It's just all about me with them.
Empathy is something that's learned. I used to be anti-gay and less empathetic to people of color because I grew up in a super-conservative all-white bubble. When I had some higher-end school friends realize they were gay and started getting to know more and more people who weren't WASPs, I began to see individual people instead of "others." And that's when I started seriously questioning how I viewed the world.
And a lot of people are on the verge of that social empathy without even knowing it. When you hear someone talk about how Carlos at work is "one of the good ones", that's someone who is on the edge of understanding. They actually know Carlos, so they don't see him as an immigrant, but as a person they like and respect who does good work.
We have to help them understand that Carlos isn't the exception.
Most Democrats disapprove of what's happening in Gaza, but I haven't met a single one who's left the party over it. This isn't unique to Republicans.
Good Republicans don't stay Republican for long
Reminds me when Cawthorn was expelled from the party because he ratted them out about the cocaine and orgies.
Like thats where he draws the line. Everything else was fine.
They draw the line at spilling secrets about other Republicans. Remember this hit from Trump's last term?
“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” said McCarthy, R-Calif., according to the report.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., has said policymakers in Washington have been too harsh on Russia and should work more closely with Moscow to fight extremist groups.
McCarthy’s comment prompted laughter from some Republicans in the room.
House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., told his colleagues to not share the remarks, the Post reported.
“No leaks, all right? This is how we know we’re a real family here,” Ryan reportedly said.
It doesn't matter what happens behind closed doors, as long as you don't talk about what happens there.
That's pretty standard party politics.
When a democrat fucks up, other democrats call for and get a resignation. When a republican fucks up, they circle the wagons and defend the offender to the last breath. Democrats are not Good but don't act like they're the same.
The majority of Democrats don't even represent America heir voters, and you think they resign? They fuck up routinely and shitheaps like Schumer and Fetterman are still going strong.
Thinking Fetterman is actually a democrat kinda tells us all we need to know about you.
Thinking they’re not says more about you. They are literally some of the highest ranking most important members of the whole group.
You still think they represent you, when they don’t.
And anyone still one passed that point long, long ago. (Except kids. I feel like the clock only starts once you're out from your parents' bubble)
The guy got blowback for being Jonathan Ross' attorney right now. Conscience my ass.
I'm always amazed people keep having new lines they cannot cross. I really just assumed that if you were gonna vote for Mr. "Grab 'm by the pussy", you were already AOK with basically anything, as long as it came from the party of Reagan.
On the one hand, better late than never.
On the other, the Republican party has been the party of maximum scumbag since like Nixon.
He's representing the fascist assassin Jonathan Ross....
Show me a consistent framework of justice where it was okay for John Adams to represent the guys who did the Boston Massacre but that guy (who is a shitbag who murdered someone) shouldn’t be represented.
I agree, he’s a murderer and should be prosecuted to the greatest extent of the law. But representation is part of that law.
How are so many people in this thread saying “yes, Trump bad” but also “I want to do exactly what Trump does but to other people instead”
The implication (I hope) is that noone is representing him that isn't a public defender. This man should be so socially radioactive that only the lawyers ordered by the court consider it.
I'm not saying this is what it's happening here, but I swear I recall a story of a lawyer who knew his client was guilty and wanted him to be put away for life, but defended them to the best of his ability to ensure that they wouldn't get a mistrial on the basis of Ineffective Assistance of Counsel.
Half the country thinks he was actively defending himself from an active shooter. They’re wrong, obviously. But to suggest that social pressure should make him unrepresentable is ridiculous.
I didn't know Ross was being charged, I figured Trump had opted to just give him a medal and a paid vacation.
i think i saw on reddit Madel wrote a memo on how to get "ross legal help form the DOJ or another legal firm and would be totally covered pro-bono" hes a total pos
If you registered as a Republican in the last 60 years, that is exactly what you signed up for. You joined the nazis and you knew.
Many places have or had in the past closed primaries, meaning you can only vote as a registered party member. I wouldn't complain if people had registered to try and influence from within the system, though that is an uphill battle that may not be worth it and can backfire. Pushing for a weak candidate to try and get the opposition elected is how we got Trump's first term.
In some states the primary is essentially the real election. I can't fault someone for voting in a republican primary when that determines their fate. In other states there are open primaries and the democratic candidates may be uncontested or you may want to simply vote against someone, like Trump, as many chances as you get. Suddenly you are a registered republican because of the ballot you requested.
Lets not pretend that he's grown a conscience. What he doesn't want is a humiliating defeat that would tarnish any dreams of a legacy he wants going forward. They will be back just not at this very moment whilst the party is super unpopular there.
Note to the reactionaries about to diss this guy: He said "Hispanics and Asian" people. Not black people.
So he could be telling the truth 🤔
I think black people are being left out of this about as much as white people? Progress?
Wait, no. Today brown people are the target.
Don't worry though, I'm sure the white supremacists will turn to more targets after this one if they get their way.
This guy is just blowing out because he'd get slaughtered. Just quitting to fight another day.
I did not sign up to that.
Yeah. He did. At no point did Trump or MAGA lie about their intentions. From the beginning they said exactly what they were going to do.
And he signed on. Maybe its because he didn't believe they would actually do it and now he regrets it. That's fine.
But regardless, he literally "signed up to that" and he has to own that.
They did this after january 6th as well and then media memory holed everything a couple years later and revised the event. The media will memory hole this as well.
This guy screams lying bullshitter.
Rats leaving a sinking ship.
At this point I will take any ally in this situation. Piece by piece we can and will take this corrupt administration down. With or without any support from either side of the political spectrum.
It took until now for that to sink in? This isn’t morality, this is simply jumping ship after taking way too fucking long to read the room. This is a scared rat on a sinking boat, nothing more.
I'm sure he was able to make excuses when they were at least kind of pretending they weren't being super racist.
im guessing thats why TRUMP had ice attack minnesota as soon as walz dropped of the race, hoping to give him some brownie points on being anti-immigration. Also the fact that he is the attorney for Renees murderer too. and trump immediately started backpedaling on ice the moment he dropped out of the race.
Sounds like the exact reason he should stay in the race. His presence alone prevents one of the Confederates from posting a candidate.
Nah, a republican looking at the optics, saying some good words, and hiding for a bit.
Lol don't be a republican? Like, it IS what you signed up for dude, where have you been for the last 30 years+???
Virtue signal bullshit.
conscience my arse, where was this any time in the past 20 years, dude.
You're just seeing the writing on the wall and trying not to get put up against it
You're almost definitely right, but I think we should encourage it instead of jumping on it. Lets not make it clear that its ride or die for anyone who drank the koolaid.
I'm a leftist queer enby who was AMAB and almost fell down the alt-right pipeline and in my ignorance validated the opinions of libertarians. If it wasn't for positive voices in my life, who knows the demons I would have welcomed in. I see good people around me now echoing, what is blatant to my current perspective, a negative voice.
I can shame them for not knowing better or I can guide them down the right path. Our environment really can be blinding, my friend. I'm just grateful this man has positive voices from his daughters. Because I was truly stupid and he probably is, and hopefully a was, too.
there is surprising amount of LGBTQ+ that are in alt-right echo chambers. especially around white supremacy. i remember seeing a video on yt about adult film star, gay. a black one was calling out a white one at the time how he never associates with poc in the industry only whites, and the white guy gave a half ass answer as to why. your a southern white guy with the accent and all, cant get any obvious than the politics you support.
he saw the ICE thing wasnt helping his campaign/run, so he backed out, hes not doing out of his good heart. Also the likely reason why trump is trying throw bovino and noem under the bus. i think it is the reason why ICE was in minnesota in the first place, to help his campaign.
Conscience? No. This is just common sense. He knows there is no chance in hell he'd win and no way to defend the ICE fiasco, so he's making a shiw of dropping out. Smart. He's giving himself giid PR for an election when things are less heated.
He took one step in the right direction. ONE STEP. That’s better than nothing, but he’s got a long way to go.
Hey guys, way to take a win and say "yeah actually he's in the wrong for this"
Well, it’s clear he’s still republican because even in his statement he makes it about him.
“I did not sign up for this.”
Stay in the race and hold the spot from some other asshole. If you win, don’t be a shitty ass republican; if you lose then some shitty ass republican didn’t win.
Has he made any effort to criticise or stand up to to ICE or is it all passive and about himself?
Resiging in protest of something usually a way to critique that thing. Not saying he's doing it for the right reasons or well enough, but he's no less outcome-focused than someone expecting moral standards from republicans in a lemmy comments section.
I am pretty sure through all this he's the attorney for the agent who murdered Renee Good.
He is and I suppose to some degree openly making statements about the behaviour would likely be a conflict of interest.
It’s just quite an odd situation. I don’t believe this guy has suddenly grown a conscious, I think he is playing politics, I think most with a conscious would likey say hey AB & C are just not acceptable. He does not seem to have said anything like this. It’s the mild mannered step back and use the family as an excuse. There no sorry. There’s no I stand against violence.
doubtful, he is vouching for johnathan ross, and is reccomending how ross can seek legal help from the republicans.
Conservatives only have an demon and a devil on their shoulders. They only question the approach for committing evil.
no hes doesnt, hes defending renee's murder, johnaton ross. plus TRump is only dialing back ICE because he suddenly dropped out of the race.
Mike Lindell is going to win anyway
Holy fuck, he looks like shit!
Is that actually him? He looks like a creepy wax sculpture of himself.
Holy shit, someone with a modicum of principles!
Fuck him for it taking THIS LONG. but I guess its something.
No such thing.
More like a Republican who lost faith in Trump's ability to steal his election for him.
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