Edit2: As of third of July we've achieved the minimum amount of 1 million signatures! But organizers recommend as many signatures as possible to cover for possible invalidations (1.5M would be ideal). If you have not yet signed, you can still help!

Onto the post.

Yarr citizens of the high seas! The Stop Killing Games movement is still ongoing and we've recently had a second wind. It's within reach!

We're all lovers of media in here, and games currently have no safeguard that guarantees that they won't be locked down long after being released and abandoned. If crackers help us, they can still be played long into the future, but many times there isn't such a possibility, specially in multiplayer games.

This initiative seeks to change that by mainly:

  • Disallowing planned obsolesce in paid video games. (Ex: By disallowing phone-home based DRM after the game reaches end of life. Like in Ubisoft's The Crew)
  • Ensuring that paid multiplayer games can still be reasonably played long into the future. (Ex: By releasing relevant server hosting software)

If you didn't sign yet, there is only one month left. Tell your friends too.

Do you live in the EU?

Do you live in the UK?

Do you live elsewhere or would like to know more?

Disclaimer: Reminder post, sort of relevant since piracy movements have much to benefit from this initiative.

Have a fine day!

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[–] 84 points 1 year ago (5 children)

An important reminder that if this can be enacted into law, there is a chance it would not only apply to games but also at some point maybe to all software that does not require a server to operate most basic functions (ie. looking at you adobe)

Sign it, and get your friends and family to sign it because the proposal is pretty common sense: if you buy something, you should own it.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    Another reminder that if enacted, in practice this is not only for Europeans.

    If games have to be reasonably playable in Europe then they will be reasonably playable everywhere.

    This benefits all consumers one way or another.

    More importantly though, for everything, like the comment I'm replying to mentions: If you buy something you should own it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Sign it, and get your friends and family to sign it because the proposal is pretty common sense: if you buy something, you should own it.

    ESPECIALLY when it's advertised as ownership and not a rental service.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is mainly why I signed it. I honestly don't care about new games, and the whole narrative around the campaign is frankly infantile, but it should at the very least be a start towards fighting such practices in general.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Remember everyone, 1 million is a MINIMUM goal. Keep signing afterwards if/when we reach the milestone, as some signatures can be declared invalid due to errors like wrong spelling, so we need every single person we can get in the EU to sign this!

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    UK petition has less than 5k to go!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    KEEP SIGNING EVEN AFTER THE THRESHOLD HAS BEEN REACHED!

    Signatures will be checked and, historically, 10% to 20% of signatures have been invalidated.

    So we need to get at least 1.3 million signatures to be completely safe.

    KEEP SHARING!

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Let's say you're company x budgeting y millions to make a game, after this passes, you may want to account for the fact that the EU may legislate the issue in the years it takes you to develop your game. Might as well work on compliance in advance.

    Yeah, wishful thinking, I know.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago
    [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Either stopkillinggames.com has crashed...

    Or the counter has exceeded its max possible value.

    UPDATE:

    We've done it.

    Don't stop signing up!

    Get these damn numbers as high as they can go!

    ...

    Clocked at about 16:13 UTC/GMT, or 4:13 PM UTC/GMT, Thursday July 3rd, 2025.

    ...

    Fuck July 4th.

    Gamers....

    This is our independence day.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Let's gooooooooo!!!!!!!!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I went to sign and it told me I already signed. I did it like one year ago

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Shared the link. Hope you guys get the numbers you need 🙏🏽

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    yayy! nearly there

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Do I have to be a citizen of the EU or just live there? I'm going to be moving to Sweden soon but won't be a citizen for a long while still

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Given the impressive increase in signing rate, I'm a bit afraid it'll turn out to have been tampered with

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yes, that's why it's important to gather more than 1 million signatures. At least 1.3 million to be on the safe side.

    At the end of the collection, all invalid signatures will be deducted from the total.

    So now it's more important than ever to keep sharing and signing.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)
  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    How is that petition even valid? For example, as a non-EU citizen, what's to stop me from just selecting Finland and entering bogus info? Does that mean as a US citizen I get to decide EU laws?

    Additionally, from the "initiative seeks to..." part, none of that is listed on their website as goals. They don't list any goals which is kind of problematic if you have an EU petition. Its a petition to do what specifically (show me a goal)?

    EDIT: I just read through the Past Actions & Results of their site. Of the completed Actions, all of the them have failed. I then realized this petition doesn't require EU to pass anything, only that a committee look at it. I feel like this is a really well intentioned activity that ultimately will fail due to poor execution. Even if the petition succeeds, no action has to be taken by EU member nations and historically hasn't.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    what's to stop me from just selecting Finland and entering bogus info?

    The petition needs to be signed with the eID of a EU country, a EU passport or a EU identification card in most countries.

    Unless you have one of those, you can't sign the petition with bogus info.

    Not sure how countries that don't have those handle it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Signatures will be verified at the end of the petition period.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Do you know how? Its pretty easy to just randomly generate addresses using something like this (https://www.bestrandoms.com/random-address-in-fi). I can just VPN to Finland and enter Itätuulenkuja 92, 02100 Espoo, Finland. Its just a construction yard, but is the petition recipient going to actually check that?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    There's no realistic way to spoof the eID I needed to vote. It is bound to you, you generally can't get one without in-person identification, and once you have it it only works with an authenticator app.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    hell yes a petition will show them for sure

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