The online survey of 1,002 U.S. adults was conducted between Jan. 13 and 15. It found that 66 per cent of respondents want Canada to remain an independent nation

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[–] 121 points 9 months ago (7 children)

17% of Americans can throw themselves directly into a volcano.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    pretty sure they'd need assistance on that, so, eh. you know.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You think one of those rascal scooters could make it to the summit?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    nope. they're gonna have to hire sherpas or something.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Is it bad if I want Canada to annex Minnesota? (where I happen to live.)

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, I don't entirely object to the reverse (as long as California is adopted into the family), but making Canada part of the US? No thank you. Fucking crab bucket mentality; can't let other people have nice things.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Let's respect the borders! Northern States for Canada, Southwest States for Mexico 😁

    🤔🤔🤔 And Florida for Cuba 😁😁😁

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    As a Canadian I like visiting Minnesota and it feels like a real shame not to be able to visit there right now because of all the fascism. I think many Minnesotans would fit in quite well among Canadians. But there are also some horrible reactionary elements there. Perhaps persuade them to move to Texas first.

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    17 percent of Americans need lobotomies.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    So many US sources say shit like "only 17 %" as if this is a low value. It's infuriating

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I think the wording is meant to contrast how few Americans actually want it, vs, how much Trump wants it, who, as president, should, in theory as an elected figure, represent the majority opinion of the people. So, they are calling attention to the fact that it's a low number, but for a different reason than your reading.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    Obviously that is part of what they are saying, they just haven't taken the care to exclude the "we are proud of the US since only 1/5 of us want to take Canada". In a situation like this, you'd expect more care. And this isn't a slight one off, it's very common type of comment for commentary about the US, particularly domestically.

    All they had to do was swap these paragraphs and it would help the implication:

    Only 17 per cent of respondents said they want Canada to be a U.S. territory or state. That number climbed slightly to 23 per cent of respondents who want Greenland to become a U.S. territory or state.

    U.S. President Donald Trump has been aggressively pursuing an expansionist agenda during his second term.

    Far better to be explicit and state what you mean:"17 per cent of respondents said they want Canada to be a U.S. territory or state, indicating low domestic popularity". But even then, for an international audience that is a horrifyingly large amount of domestic support that if aligned with similar issues tends to include roughly 1/10 Democrats so any sort of "its just MAGA" is lies to help feel less bad about countryman.

    Seriously, what are you doing defending this sort of indifference to clarity, and collateral insults, when discussing a head of state and country this egregious?

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I was always kinda hopin' Canada would annex us instead.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    I've traveled to a few states and I think some of them would make fantastic provinces. Some of them have people very kind and friendly, and I like to think that fits well with Canadians.

    Set it up! If you can get orange daddy to sign off on it (convince him it'll sway the vote to be more red with fewer blue in there) we'll be set!

    You like bacon? You ever had sortilege?

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Fucking hell that's too high. They've been nothing but an excellent neighbor to us and they want to remain sovereign. This is just a demand for a forever war against old friends that will also result in us actually being attacked on our own soil for once. Because yeah, they know where our bases are and if we're invading they're going to use their modern military.

    In fact, I'm angry at the term annex here. Annex is a word that feels neutral and like it could be bloodless, the word in question is invade or go to war with. Going to war with Canada would result in attacks on our cities. Civilians will die on both sides for no fucking gain. Billions of dollars in infrastructure will be wiped out for good reason and that's all assuming that nato stays neutral, which they've made pretty clear isn't the case. We need to start talking here with the people in our lives about how that's what "annexing" canada looks like, and make damn sure that we get into the 90+% range vociferously opposing this bullshit.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I think even many Canadians don't think it through. If we survive the initial invasion we will be deprived of education, healthcare, freedom of movement, democratic representation, autonomy, resources like water and electricity, employment and money. Some of us would be pulled out of our homes and disappeared or killed, particularly if we're vocal critics of the USA. We would be closely watched and guarded and met with violence at the first sign of resistance or noncompliance. Our children would be indoctrinated in school. Our scientific institutions would be shut down. Our friends and family, particularly anyone who is not a straight white cis Christian conservative, will be in constant danger. It won't be just an administrative handover that allows Canadians to get on with their lives. It will be brutal and punitive.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Which is why violent, disruptive resistance would be the norm. I'm talking making the Taliban look like a relief organization. I would happily make sure Americans fear for their lives every second of every day if it ever came to that and I know Im not alone in that. If I had to die as a result, as long as I take out 10 Americans before I do I'd die happy.

    In other words, terrorize the fuckers until they go home.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    We would, but what other choice would we have if if happened? Just kowtow to the US? Fuck that. Would it suck and make everything horrible? Yes, but not like Ukraine had an option when their war started.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Even if 100 percent of then wanted to they still wouldn't have a moral claim over it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I dunno. Seeing as they have a large region there that shares a name with my tribe. Where many used to live. Maybe they could let a few of us in.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Do you think you'll enter with the same rights you have now or the same rights they have. Or will you have a much lower, second class or third class rights.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Hard to say. As let's be clear here, Canada has had just as problematic a past with first nations. And are currently dealing with their own fascist insurgence. But when the time comes. Dying to fascists leaves you with zero rights.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    God no. Please Canada, don't join us! We are a dumpster fire right now. If we try yo gorce you, fight us!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    wait. Can I help? for. uh. citizenship?

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    25 pc of the president's base is evangelical. They want chaos, war, misery, to hasten the second coming (of angry vengeful jesus, none of that weak ass new testament bullshit,) where the faithful, them, get brought to heaven and the world drowns in lakes of blood and fire.

    These people believe in nothing to advance the common good, the common good to them is pain, strife, and the end of the world.

    Naturally they see the president and his puppet master in Israel making US and UK swells dance waving around tapes of them fucking children with epstein as a gift from god to bring on this rapture.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    17% of Americans are abjectly stupid

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Probably 15% of those don't know what annex means

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Meanwhile I'm sitting here wishing Canada would annex the U.S.

    Or at least New England. Not even the whole of New England. They can leave Connecticut behind. That may be better for everyone.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    NGL I'd want Canada to annex us.

    I'm in the PNW, it's a fairly common sentiment around here.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    How about Canada Annexes the PNW and New England and the US annexes Alberta.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    The upper midwest and ontario would be a good new country. Chicago to minnesota to michigan, all of michigan, huron, and superior.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It would have been a great country had it gone that way, and should Canada destabilize like the US maybe, but they've been pretty clear that they like being a whole country, and Ontario didn't join us in the 18th century, and they're unlikely to join up with some of us in the 21st. Also they definitely wouldn't want Indiana. That said the upper Midwest (Ohio to Minnesota, maybe even transappalacian Pennsylvania) would make for a pretty good country to be a close ally of canada

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I am 100 percent in agreement in leaving out Indiana. I would leave out ohio too, or just the northern third of illinois, indiana, ohio, and pennsylvania.

    Because the south of those states are more confederate in nature. Idk pennslyvania though most is more eastern seaboard, the ne corridor cpuld be a couple countries, new england then ny to dc.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    You understand a big problem Canadians have with Americans, is that even when you disagree with your "leader", you're still talking about carving up our country.

    You know we find that incredibly disrespectful, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Pfft. Coming from the country whose geese flout our border controls with impunity, fake voting too I'm sure. Then you send all your lousy smokey air down here? Enough is enough. Build the Wall! Build the Wall! Build the Wall!

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    How about you guys get your house in order, fix your stupid gun laws, and then we can talk about something like North American Schengen. Quebec City to Chicago in high speed rail sounds like fun, you know?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    That sounds lovely and like something I have argued for for my entire life and will continue to argue for. It's currently unclear if the US will splinter, but I dream of a day when high speed rail can take someone from Vancouver to Mexico City

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    And those 17% couldn't find Canada on a map if their lives depended on it.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I can only assume this 17% want to because they're just parroting their Dear Leader.

    Any same person would ask "why?"

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    The percentage of Americans– actually humans in general– who’re are just utterly irredeemably idiotic is above 17% in my estimation. So coming in less than that is a win in my book.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    That 17% is just the people who whole-hog wanted to annex Canada. There's an additional 16% that didn't care enough to have an opinion on it.

    Is 1 in 3 more along the lines of what you were expecting?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is questionable. Partially because the knuckle draggers who support trump largely wouldn't know what the word annex means.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    And how many percent of them hesitated to say that they agree with that?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Well of course they do. Its just so unfair that Canadians get public health care, parental leave, good public education, no school shootings, and better treatment of citizens. Why should Canadians have a better lifestyle than american slaves?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I want Canada, Denmark, or almost anyone else to annex the US west coast.

    Maybe Canada could trade Alberta with the US in exchange for Oregon, Washington, and California.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    Canada can easily kick that 17% of the US' ass, especially given all the infighting an invasion of Canada would cause.

    Fuck it, those Americans really should come here and say that. See what happens.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    We're in the justifying war goal against Canada part of the event chain

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    thoughtless 17% like putting old, shriveled, tiny, sodium filled, pedophilic, mushroom shaped things in their zyn filled mouths when told to

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Wait, it's actually that low? I would have thought it'd be at least 25%.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    70% of Americans believe in angels. If you take the extreme end of that statistic you can just insert any crazy belief.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Based on some quick, small, online survey by some random website. Uh huh.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago*

    Considering you can get 30% of americans to agree with anything on a poll, 17% must be like the amount of americans who think like "autonomous" means "automobile maker" or something and are too embarrassed/overconfident to ask for clarification.

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    What percentage want another country to take over the US? If that question isn't in that survey then its meaningless. Which it probably still would be no matter what. Most surveys target certain demographics to get the answers they want.

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