Health Struggles (piefed-media.feddit.online)
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[–] 148 points 9 months ago (8 children)

It's the same person before and after seeing the medical bill

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    As an American, I don't know what that first image is supposed to be, but it sure looks expensive.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Only Americans would think about money when being sick in the hospital.

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  • [+] -26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    That made me think of a joke thats funny to me....but I've learned that most OTHER people find some of my humor far too upsetting to be funny.

    So instead, just think about that clip of donald duck getting a handjob from daisy duck where he cums all over the place, and then says "oh boy! You are a mess! I'll go get you a towel!"

    Thats ALWAYS funny!

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  • [–] 57 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes! A reason to post this!

    Painting of a woman in fancy black dress slouching in a cough with a book dangling from her hand. Speech bubble:"Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck"

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I understand the sentiment, but I literally lost all my friends when I had cancer in high school due to a combination of people not knowing what to say or how to act and an abusive boyfriend telling lies to the few that stuck around. The youth pastor at the church I went to wasn't even comfortable coming into my hospital room

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    When the treatment is clear and the recovery virtually guaranteed, the support is freely given.

    When the problems aren't visible, the treatment plan is more improvisation than schedule, and recovery is hard to quantify. Support is harder to give and rarer to receive.

    Mental problems are more likely to fall into the later bucket, but there are a swath of physical ailments from the metabolic and hormonal to the structural that also get lumped in.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    When the treatment is clear and the recovery virtually guaranteed, the support is freely given.

    The rising price of insulin and other common pharmaceuticals would suggest it is not freely given.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    You don't recover from diabetes by receiving insulin, so it doesn't fit into the "recovery virtually guaranteed" part of that category.

    But, yes, there are a number of chronic diseases with no cures but excellent treatments, and those treatments should be available free to the patient but are often targets for Capital to rent-seek from patients as much as "the market will bear". And, when market failure means a painful death, the market will bear quite a bit.

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    [–] 38 points 9 months ago

    If it is chronic those flowers and cards dry up quick. Also the medical care and attention beyond hucking out pills. Which brings us to panel 2...

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Her hair looks fucking amazing for whatever physical issues she's got going on. Slay queen.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    maybe if the second girl took some time to look nicer then people would be more willing to give support

    Spoiler/s

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  • [+] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 103 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I do agree with the message about invisible disabilities and mental ableism, but I'm gonna push back on some of this greener grass thinking. For a lot of physical health struggles like chronic fatigue, diabetes, juvenile arthritis, etc... they don't get this kind of support. Being trans is also often a physical health struggle as much as mental. I like reminding people that gender dysphoria is a genetic disorder.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    If you are rich they both can look like the top one.

    Then again, if you eat the most nutritious food and live without ANY stress your entire life; you probably wouldn't get mental or physical problems either.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    live without ANY stress your entire life

    Tell me your secrets, o wise one

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Sad part is that after years off information and fundings for mental health ( for children ) it is still not seen by some as a problem. And than you get 18+ ( not child ) and somehow now you have to 'man up' 'be harder' or 'yust laugh a bit more'.

    And don't forget the partner/familie. A depression also is a weight on their life.

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  • [+] 6 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    If you live in Sweden, the doctors will tell you to drink more water, eat healthy and go for more walks.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I get stress induced hives, and my old doctor's advice was, "just don't be stressed".
    Thanks for not helping, I guess.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I' so sorry for you. Hope that now you are better helped. ( Old dok... So i guess you have a new one)

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Somewhat, though I most definitely did get a new doctor. Thank you for the concern.

    I managed to get appointments with the psychiatry teams, however essentially it boiled down to it being difficult to help with CPTSD as a whole, individual aspects must be considered when each trauma differs greatly in subject matter.
    So one therapy at a time. For a long time. It's not what I wanted to hear, yet it is what I needed. I've been taking steps to improve my mental health in great ways, and my current doctor's practice has been rather supportive.

    It's funny, my new doctors is only about 10 minutes further than my old one. Has been worth the change.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Don’t forget with mental health struggles, people will tell you to just get over it and that marriage and kids may save you (which yikes, those poor kids), turn to god, or that the actual problem is that you’re not being productive so simply take a shower, start a hobby, develop your career. Your worth is based on productivity and you’re struggling because you’re not making someone else wealthy.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    For Americans: top picture needs to show big medical bills. You'll get treatment for physical health problems, but at a heavy price.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I’d love to see a mental health facility designed for people who simply need a bit of a break and need to get a little TLC. Like, come on in, drink some of this, it’ll put color in your cheeks.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Once AI renders us redundant, which will happen, whether you like it or not...

    ...it will be possible, but they will instead, leave us to die, without even a humane way to euthanize ourselves.

    They will take everything from us, and watch us squirm in our own trash and waste. Watch us struggle.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Artist has never had a physical health struggle before. It's far more often the bottom picture

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Chronically ill people seeing this meme: 'Am I a joke to you?'

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    Visit People in Mental health hospital and see no one has cards or flowers beside there bed.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    And I think that these days we all struggle at least a little

    Be kind to yourself, look out for your friends, family and loved ones

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    The few people ive met with mental health issues didnt wanna talk about it. Thats fine. But at the same time they started hiding away, not socializing etc.. making it even harder to support them.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Gotta show the cops restraining the persona and hauling them off for involuntary sedation... ETC.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Even better when you have both, but can mask them effectively enough that very few know.

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    Why not both.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    c/im14andthisisdeep

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Even worse, give a hint that you have mental health struggles, even if you don't actually do anything bad.

    People instantly see you as lesser.

    I learned the hard way to never vent to friends. Just give them a few bones, and pretend to be the perfect, ideal version of yourself that you can be. Tell them enough shows you like, and they will find one they are strongly opposed to. Complain about issues enough, and you become an energy draining vampire. Etc, etc.

    It's better to expect nothing from everyone, recognize that anything you gain from humans has a cost, and to remove yourself from human influences as fast as possible.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I'm guessing you're also an American. I feel you, friend. The US has a cultural toxic positivity problem, amongst other issues. Got a problem? STFU and turn that frown upside down! They're not problems but opportunities! It could be worse! It is... what it is. 🫠

    So people bottle up their negative emotions and don't learn how to deal with them. They don't know how to seek OR give support. Some feel threatened when presented with someone else's negative emotions, and it doesn't help that the other usually doesn't know how to present them, so they try to make it go away.

    I have no idea how to fix it on a societal level beyond learning to do better ourselves and setting a good example for others.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Well, thank you for the understanding, but I actually live somewhere known as Serbia.

    Here, if Rakija doesn't solve it, you are just a pussy 😭

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    That's the way it is with any disease. If you hobble into a party with a compound fracture and turn all the conversations to that, it's going to make people uncomfortable. They're not doctors. They don't know how to deal with it. It's not that they think you're lesser. I have a dozen physical ailments plus bipolar disorder. The best thing to do is not to focus on it. If you can't do that, you need meds. And they work. Trust me. Go to the doctor and get treated.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    That's so completely untrue, most of the time you have to proove you have a physical problem otherwise you are just dismissed and even yet, really, I would have liked the world to take well care of people with "physical" problems, that's just not the reality at all

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    While true in some backwater countries (like the US), that also illustrate the problems with metal health: you mostly cannot measure it.

    A broken bone can be easily seen, a cancer too (in most cases). But how can we measure that your brain fucks up at a fundamental level? Sure we can see some anomalies (hormonal unbalances, parts that are less active than usual, but other thant that...).

    So the standard response in many case is that it is your problem to take care, often with tons of unwelcome "help" ("can you try to be happy", "try X I saw on tiktok", or similar "advice")... If you are lucky.
    I saw a friend loose about all her "friend" once she became depressed. She's almost homeless these day, living with her family in a motel she barely can afford despite working full time. I help her the best I can (paid for groceries, phone bill, some of the motel nights when she couldn't), but because of everyone turning on her she blame herself for not being good enough. Which in turn make her depression worse.

    Capitalism made empathy a sin. Anyone not helping paythe shareholder their next yatch is seen as a deadweight only deserving to be left to rot.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Let me introduce you to the concept of chronic illness and pain.

    Chronically ill people are in the same boat. Doctors won't believe them because their symptoms cannot be measured. Friends alienate them because they don't have the spoons to live up to expectations. Family keeps telling them to just think positive thoughts. Everyone tells them they are sick because they aren't exercising and dieting enough.

    All while you are in perpetual pain, nausea, fatigue, and overstimulation from so many new ways you learn your body can suffer.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I do know that situation very well since I'm one of those.

    Scoliosis (so constant back pain), and a suspected immunity problem (need more pyl.. blood works to be pinpointed) that make me basically sick most of the year (as an example, I'm already at my sixth flu since last September... Fun times πŸ˜…).

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    One is in the hospital, one is not. That is a key difference in the comparison attempting to be made.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    people with mental health issues end up at home alone.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I have people I care about who are at home in their bed a lot because of medical issues, no one is bringing them flowers. I get what the comic is trying to do, truly. But analogies of things that are different are not good analogies.

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  • not saying I'll people aren't left alone, just that for mental health issues, being alone tends to be the norm.

    during my long depression, I genuinely wished I had a terminal disease, so I get to die and family/people would have to at least pretend to be nice to me, plus with opioids, I might actually feel some good emotion before I die. that isn't a rare though for people with severe long term depression.

    and many other mental health issues end up with depression due to isolation, stigma, and the nature of depression.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Wooosh... The second person is in a "mental hospital". You can tell by the bars on the window.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Is it generally less spoken out to friends and family of mental problems compared to physical ailments?

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  • I feel seen

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