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[–] 123 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Seems like Doge might have been setup to facilitate this. They are cross referencing data from the HHS database. Big Brother.

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  • [–] 93 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    The actual point of DOGE was to just backdoor and/or datadump as many government databases as possible and give them to Palantir. That’s it. That was the entire point. Everything else was simply theatrics.

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  • [–] 59 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Also firing all the agencies and agents investigating him.

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  • [–] 91 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    oh awesome, Palantir, the same company profiting off the genocide in Gaza

    CEO Alex Karp has been a vocal supporter of Israel. In November 2023, he stated, "I am proud that we are supporting Israel in every way we can."

    After October 2023, Palantir has provided Israel with multiple AI-powered data analytics tools for military and intelligence purposes.

    In January 2024, Palantir held its board meeting in Israel and entered into a “strategic partnership” with Israel’s Ministry of Defense to help Israel's “war effort.”

    In October 2024, Norway's largest asset manager, Storebrand, divested its Palantir shares, worth $24 million, due to concerns that Palantir's work for Israel might implicate Storebrand in violations of international humanitarian law and human rights.

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    The Palantir tools were used to analyze the data trove that Microsoft was hosting for Israel. It contained all of the cellular data (metadata and call recording/MMS contents/data traffic) for the entirety of Palestine.

    That tool's detection of 'terrorists' was used to justify a massive portion of the air strikes on Palestine. Their beta test resulted in a genocide.

    Palantir is complicit in war crimes and genocide, never forget that.

    Now the fascists are using the terrorist language to target their political opponents in the US and using the same tools of genocide.

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  • [–] 68 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    The Nazis used IBM, the GOP use Palantir.

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  • [–] 50 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Fucking hate how these shitheads take words from Tolkien's works and bastardise them. Palantir, Anduril.

    What's next, a social credit system named "Silmaril"? An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called "Rivendell"?

    Just fucking stop.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago

    Tolkein's idyllic structure for a society, the shire, is frequently analyzed through a lens of "is this anarchism?" and it's not all that uncommon to conclude "yes"

    all these fuckers read Tolkien and adopted the imagery of the villains. none of them realize that the message is that all the top level people are addicted to power. the people who actually get shit done, the hobbits, they are tempted by power because it's tempting, but ultimately value singing songs, making tea, and eating potatoes too much to want to possess the ultimate power in the universe. almost everyone who comes into contact with the one ring wants to possess it forever. Bilbo's first desire for it is to use it to help him escape a dangerous situation. Frodo is indifferent to it at first. Sam immediately hates it, feels guilt for letting Frodo carry it alone, and commits himself to destroying it.

    You're not supposed to read Tolkien and implement fascism. you're supposed to read Tolkien and learn to value pacifism

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I mean... Palantir showed Denethor false images of doom and despair fed by Sauron. It drove him to become a completely mad tyrant.

    I think Palantir is a very apt name. They just don't realise why.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They just don’t realise why.

    Yup. Just how Sauron was able to see via the Palantiri, the Swiss army have concluded that they can't rule out US intelligence accessing data through Palantir systems, despite reassurances.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I think that’s a Thiel thing. Tolkein was was one of his obsessions growing up. It doesn’t surprise me that he saw a plot device intended to be a warning as a really cool idea…

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    After listening to some of the Behind the Bastards on Thiel's Antichrist obsession, his names for things are more understandable. Not by being sensible, by his demonstrated tendency to read things and take interpretations from them that make no sense to anyone else.

    So yeah I'm sure he's got some nutso bananas reinterpretation of what a Palantir is, etc.

    He seems unwell, truly.

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    [–] 50 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    Meanwhile my dad: ‘you should really invest in this company Palantir’…

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  • [–] 69 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    My brother is a total Palintir supporter because he sees his stocks rising. I tell him he’s supporting evil but he says their CEO is a Democrat and has nothing to do with Thiel🙄. Like most Americans he’s ok with evil if it pays well.

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    The CEO is insane. He apparently self-describes himself as a socialist but is the highest paid CEO on earth and fantasises about dumping cyanide-laced urine on people protesting state-backed brutality

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Fentanyl.

    Fentanyl laced urine.

    That's what he said.

    Its basically a modern update on how the CIA would just dose their coworkers with LSD, but much more overtly weaponized.

    ... I am fairly sure that that would count as a war crime, if done on a battlefield.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    90 years ago: buy Hugo Boss and Mercedes

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If you did and held for say 30-40 years you would have an amazing return on investment.

    Funny how a government can fail, but the corporations keep going

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Let's give credit where credit is due - This is what the GOP wants. They have complete ownership of ICE's terrorist activities and applaud what is being done.

    Republicans could reign this in in a couple of days if ICE didn't have their blessing. The same is true if our corporate/billionaire media began referring to what's happening as GOP, rather than ICE activity.

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  • [–] 69 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Palantir is literally Evil Corp.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Is it possible that people could use flock or palantir stuff to track and collect info on ice agents? Their security is shit, yeah?

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If we don't build these apps then someone far worse probably will. Therefore it's better if we make the apps that allow untrained monkeys to find and execute people on US soil because at least we'll do it right... ya know?

    Palantir 2026... probably.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    HOW is a Private Company like PALANTIR able to Get such SENSITIVE information Though?

    -People who Get Upset at Privacy because they have Nothing To Hide TM!

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They are DOD employees now with clearance.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Prior to that they were able to function just fine by using non-classified data brokers which have access to every bit of data that can be extracted from every smart phone that has a single app that's compromised by their spyware.

    Having access to even greater surveillance data (like the data that is gathered at TITANPOINTE and other oversea cable collection locations) just lets whoever is in charge more accurately target their political opponents.

    Like Snowden said in citizenfour, the collection capabilities of the NSA create a situation which would allow 'turnkey totalitarianism'. Well, they've turned the key.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Yeah pretty much, they're basically, at their core, private contractors, whose nearly sole customer is governments.

    Governments outsourced the management and operations of the Torment Nexus, not because they were forced to or didn't want or didn't have the resources...

    ... They were just too incompotent to do it themselves.

    So... yeah, now they're now functionally part of the government, of multiple governments actually.

    This is how we ... get to? Or have arrived at? ... just actual cyberpunk dystopia, where the Corps just are, in every meaningful way, on top.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    We cannot forget that DOGE has also stolen data from agencies. Most worrisome being the IRS who has records of all of your interest paying accounts and investments. One only need to use your imagination a little to what can happen. It is gonna be BAD.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    Every palantir executive and voting shareholder needs to be prosecuted and have their assets siezed to pay for the damage they’ve done to American democracy and the Palestinian people and infrastructure

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    That whole "look how quirky and cool Alex Karp is" pr nonsense was BS from the start.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So how do we poison the dataset?

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 9 months ago

    I suspect they're depending on data brokers who collect name and location from 3rd party apps. Set up fakes of a bunch of their metrics sending data, and you can fill it with junk

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    [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    So who can be held responsible for when the app fucks up ?

    I wonder if KARP will still be for pubic executions when they surround him with dark eyes and bright torches. I wonder if KARP recognizes that whomever killed that health care CEO ... that was a public execution.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Article starts with "Palantir..." 'nuf sa(i)d.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    There should be some sort of halal version of popular ETFs that get rid of certain universally excepted evil companies. I just invest in QQQM, VTI, VOO, etc and forget, but I have a friend who buys stocks weighted by NASDAQ except for Palantir manually. Too much of a headache for me lol.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There are screened index funds like this https://www.justetf.com/en/etf-profile.html?isin=IE00BFNM3J75

    Although we've now moved a good chunk to small capitalization and non-US to have less exposure to the coming tech bust.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Is that ETF (SNAW) you linked your default buy? I am relatively young and new to investing. I have some QQQM but wanted to move to something more ethical (ESG) and more diversified. Next paycheck I'll probably buy one of the ESG S&P 500 trackers like EFIV.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    There is S&P 500 Shariah or if you're christian there is S&P 500 Christian Values

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm actually Sikh, but I would assume that Muslims, Christians, and Atheists alike, also share basic human values like don't give money to companies that use child labor, sell weapons to terrorits, encourage dangerous addictions, etc. I don't really care if the ETF is targeted towards a specific religion or not. My main gripe would be seeing their stock exclusion list for haram stocks are based on generic human values and not banning companies that sell pork for example.

    I did a bit of research online and think EVIF might be what I'm looking for.

    Maybe using the word Halal and Haram was confusing since those are Arab words so mostly used by Muslims and Christians.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I would say that if you eat chocolate, drink coffee or use any technology you most likely give money to companies that indirectly use child labor or poison the planet so all those indexes mean nothing to me. My reply was ironic, sorry for that.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Hey, this is called the Nirvana logical fallacy. Just because I do other unethical things in my life, that doesn't mean buying an ethical ETF instead of a normal ETF is useless.

    For example, using the Nirvana logical fallacy, I could justify not going to the gym today because I already ate unhealthy food for lunch. It is impossible to be live a perfectly healthy life, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't focus on trying to be as healthy as possible within the confines of what we are willing to sacrifice.

    Same thing goes for living an ethical lifestyle.

    Hope this helps!

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Would shit like incogni or delete me help in countering this somewhat?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    No idea what level of defense is actually necessary; not having a phone, or any bills or official correspondence sent in your name to your home will suffice, but I don't know what it takes which is less than that

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    First of all getting rid of the phone and internet will not remove what is already there. If I died right now all the data is still going to be there and not erased on account of me being dead.

    I have been easing into reducing my online signature as much as possible over the past few years. It is far from perfect, I know. That is also the stuff going forward and does not handle what is already past.

    Like I still watch videos on YouTube mostly, and I still have a compromised Gmail account (compromised in that no matter what I do someone or someones have been using it to sign up for shit that clearly isn't mine). And while I no longer use my real for social media, and my last known usage of Facebook was from last summer (and I greatly diminished what I was doing over a few years at that point). None of this removes what data brokers already have.

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    [–] 8 points 9 months ago*

    Peter Thiel is such a fucking creep and so are all the other ghouls in his orbit. They're genuinely dangerous and ruining civilization.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Of course Palantir is involved.

    You could make a whole season of Black Mirror just with Palantir products.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    All this shit to distract from the Epstein Files revelations.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 9 months ago

    Honestly, it is very much a "Why not both?" situation. Of course, Trump wants to distract from the Epstein files, but advancing the techno-fascist agenda is its own goal that is pursued by a lot of people in Trump's orbit that do not care much about the Epstein files.

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    [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    The 2a people never show up when fascist shit happens. And anonymous is never around when tech bros go Nazi.

    The fuck man.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    every single name that actively develops this shit needs to be sent into the public

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    [–] 20 points 9 months ago

    ELITE? Really, of all the things to name it?

    Well I guess they know who they're marketing to.

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