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[–] 88 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I wouldn’t run it past Trump; the guy is mentally unstable and a psychopath.

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    ... and the American people are feckless sheep

    PS: although I must recognize that, since the murder of Renee Good, it does seem that some are waking up

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I am impressed at the amount of downvotes. The US had crossed several thresholds now which would've (and should've) caused Civil wars a while ago or in other countries.

    Downvoting the post above confirms it has not yet been understood where the US now stands.

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  • [+] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    I think it shows a strange effect about American geography. It's really hard to organize a meaningful, resilient, and camera-worthy resistance because we're so spread out. It's all about congregating at big cities, like LA, Portland or Minneapolis.

    Like, if British people wanted to protest and resist in the streets, they go to London. All of them. It's accessible. Americans can't do that with Washington DC.

    But I'm in Kansas City, and while our No Kings protests have had not-insignificant turnouts, it's not as easy or impactful because we had three protest sites across two-state suburban area. Can we get that many Kansas Citians to flock to Minneapolis to disrupt ICE ops? No, not really. It's why all the major protest and ICE disruptions happen in the biggest cities of the "blue"-est states.

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Charlie Kirk and other right wing stochastic terrorists recruited and bussed people to Washington with the express understanding of what was planned. All we need is one class traitor billionaire willing to do what they always accuse Soros of doing and it could legitimately make some change.

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  • [–] 70 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Nearly two thirds of Canadians aren't paying attention.

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  • [+] 16 points 9 months ago* (7 children)
  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Do you actually live here, or is this just the theme park version of Alberta?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    It's both. But your point remains, they will always be Canadians, not Americans. It's curious to me, as a Mexican, that they called themselves Americans. We think of them, some of us at least, as Europeans who took American land for themselves and then usurped the many names actual Americans had with this generic name for white Europeans.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Or they fail to imagine a situation that seems unrealistic.

    Or they can't come to terms with it.

    Or they are delusional.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Optimism bias. People failed to acknowledge a pandemic was happening until and even while it was happening in their own neighborhood and city...

    When the tanks roll in they'll still deny there's an issue.

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    [–] 31 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    Can, like, Canada and Denmark invade us instead? I wouldn't have to convince my wife to move out of this shithole

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    We would bring scary things like free wealthfare with us. And all americans were to accept it. Nonnegotiable. Almost a dictatorship like move.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Unfortunately the fix has to come from inside your own borders. You all have sacrificed way too much funding your military

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I always love the duality of comments on this topic. America's military is a Schrodinger's Military at this point, both terrifying and completely non-existent basically depending on what time of day the conversation happens at.

    Canadians can't help because the military is so powerful (completely obvious and understandable) but also, like somebody up above said, "Americans are feckless sheep" for not shooting up the White House yet.

    Everybody's a hero until it's their life on the line.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Militaries are only as strong as the country's will to continue to fight. The US had great social upheaval for a relatively low casualty war in Vietnam (<60k dead in 8 yr). Compare the casualty rates from Vietnam with what Russia is experiencing in Ukraine (180-480k deaths in 3 yr).

    I remember listening to Dan Carlin talk about how wars are typically won by the side that doesn't know when to give up. Early Rome was this way. 1941 USSR was this way. 2026 USA is NOT going to win a drawn out, existential war. We would kill a lot of people, sure, thanks to all the weapons and guns but we don't think we have what it takes to win a major power war anymore.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Fair point, but Americans have more levers they can pull like mass striking and protesting. If Canada were to invade the US, the US would invade back, likely with popular support as they'd just be "defending themselves"

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago

    Only a third?

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Canada and Mexico should make a mutual defense pact. Being pinched by land wars would make things much rougher for the US.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    As a Canadian sure, but even together we'd be fucked. Europe is our main hope.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's inevitable. No one should trust the U.S. right now, and countries should be attempting to strengthen relations with each other to deal with the fallout that is bound to occur.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    Okay, here's what's actually happening since nobody seems to get the picture.

    The Arctic has been melting in recent years, opening up areas that were never accessible before for resource extraction (oil, minerals). This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.

    Canada has claimed ownership over the Arctic and its resources. Greenland/Denmark has claimed ownership as well. America has claimed these areas are in international waters and not ownable by anybody, so it's a free for all. But they know that's a weak position.

    If USA takes Greenland, they take the Arctic. That's it, that's all.

    Bonus: it's a distraction from Trump's name being all over the Epstein files. Although I'm not sure why he cares so much; his supporters certainly don't. Like he said, he could rape a child in the middle of 5th avenue and he wouldn't lose any votes.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    And of course Russia has claimed half of it, because they have about half of the arctic coastline.

    the opportunity for profit is too huge

    Until their coastal refineries start flooding when Antarctica starts melting. Although even Greenland is already worth 7 meters of sea level rise.

    But of course all of that is for future generations to worry about. As long as they can squeeze out a bit more profit before they die, it's all good.

    This is the most literal "après moi le deluge" ever.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    ... The arctic is huge, like continent-sized. If they take Greenland, they've taken Greenland.

    This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.

    That's also not quite so spooky. Ask the average Joe how much of his salary and lifestyle he's willing to give up to prevent it. The answer is almost nothing. We haven't, because we don't wanna.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Average Joe is in debt and can barely afford rent and groceries and insurance and medical bills, and car payments and you get the idea.

    There's not much left to sacrifice.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Well, for one thing, a car is a luxury in most of the world. Ask how people feel about riding on busses. Sometimes the answer is that they can't for some reason, but usually it's just that they prefer a private vehicle and no timetables.

    For another, a good potion of the population isn't actually struggling, and has Amazon or Temu stopping by to deliver dumb stuff from China all the time. Like, that entire sector, along with meal delivery, is all about spending surplus income. I'm not talking about the bottom quarter here.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Am Canadian. I fully believe that within the next year he will be openly talking about invading. Within a couple of could well be done. The guerrilla war will go on for ever though, you can take Canada but you will have a very hard time keeping it.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Am American. We (the broad majority) don't want Canada. or Greenland. or Venezuela. Any of this fascist shit. I'm so fucking sick of this. I want to go back to politics being boring-ish and about deciding what taxes will and won't pay for and having actual friends whom we aren't actively bullying. I wish this scenario were laughable, but it's not.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    That doesn’t help at all. We are complicit.

    No citizenship ever has been in a better position to prevent their government from doing horrible things, and yet we do nothing. We wring our hands and aren’t willing to hurt, let alone die, for what is morally right. The small arms in this country are more than enough to overwhelm the entire place. We have the numbers and the weapons and yes some would have to die. This isn’t even special though, all throughout history people have died for principles, it’s just… we don’t have any.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Are we in a better position to prevent government from doing horrible things? I'm honestly at a loss for what meaningful action the populace should be taking. We've been protesting. Largest single-day mass protests in country history during this term.

    We've impeached this president (twice) and each time nothing happened because the elected senate blocked removal.

    We do NOT have a strong history of general strikes, we simply don't know how to do it since it has not been done here.

    Our populace is not well positioned to fix this except hope that the midterms happen and aren't sufficiently fucked that we sweep democrats back into power and put a check back on the system.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Fellow Canadian. The US has been moderately successful at third generation warfare (so long as they are part of an international coalition, they don't do so hot on their own). They are less successful at fourth generation warfare.

    To expand, the goal of third generation warfare is outright victory in a state on state conflict. Fourth generation warfare's goal is to make war very, VERY uncomfortable in an asymmetric conflict. There is no outright victory condition (aside from total annihilation). The USA can look forward to a very generous helping of the latter should they invade Canada.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    The guerrilla war will go on for ever though, you can take Canada but you will have a very hard time keeping it.

    Which is why i'd find it "hilarious" if he tries any boots-on-the-ground shit in Venezuela.
    I almost hope he did just so murica would go though another Vietnam... even then they'd still believe they're the Land of the fee, Home of the grease.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    The guerrilla war will go on for ever though

    You think Canadians are going to shoot mounties and cops in meaningful numbers?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Americans and traitors, the latter of which may include MAGA Canadians. There are currently an uncomfortable number of them (including cops, I suspect) that haven't figured out that announcing your treasonous intentions all over Facebook and Twitter just makes it easier for everyone to know who the enemy is when conflict breaks out. And as the state is usually predisposed during conflict, traitors are typically dealt with by the mob...and the mob has a far less nuanced and humane view of justice.

    These MAGA Canadians think it's an edgy joke.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Individual mounties and city cops will be on the guerilla's side as often as not. Resistance becomes possible because it will be against whatever new collaborateur occupation force, and there could still be a government in exile out there directing and giving it legitimacy.

    Of course, we get to live in Afghanistan but with an even harder climate in this scenario. Yaaay. /s

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    Mostly dependent on how much public attention there currently is on him being a confirmed pedophile.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Britain and France should work together to give a fully equipped nuclear sub to Canada. My country is turning to shit and everyone needs to build nukes to protect themselves from it.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Honestly just the nukes on loan would be enough. There's zero standoff and light defences accross the border. We could supply the uranium or plutonium to make replacements, even.

    Failing that, I really hope Carney is eyeing a redundant treaty in case NATO dies.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    My dude-after the very first threats Trudeau (who was still PM then) went immediately and directly to France to borrow some subs no doubt. France is now sending troops to Greenland. Shit is serious.

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