Phones and tablets. The younger generations are only using those for the most part.

It's kind of linux. Also kind of mac. They're going to android and ios.

1/3 of its Windows customers, not of all of its customers. I bet they still make plenty of money with Azure and Office 365.

This will rely on having an executive team that can predict trends beyond the next quarter.

Doubling down on advertising, telemetry, and AI in an overly bloated OS looks really good if you only care about the profits that brings for the next 3 months, rather than how much your userbase resents it. MS is fully capable of turning this around immediately by just making LTSC available to the public without needing to buy a MAK through an enterprise channel, but that means throwing away some recurring revenue in favor of claiming a lost userbase

It’s Microsoft’s current CEO. All he is interested in is subscription revenue. Xbox hardware is next to go.

Breaking up Microsoft would be the best thing they could do right now. But it won’t happen.

And adding advertising to various parts of the OS.

Hey, Microsoft: de-shitify your OS if you want it to be more popular.

You would hope, but this is the same thing we see across almost all industries these days. It's almost like there's a root cause for it, some sort of, Iunno, economic system we could blame ...

But especially cable companies, for example. Has a dwindling customer base caused them to rethink their business strategies? Or has it caused them to try and bleed that dwindling base dryer even faster?

There's no "learning" anymore, there's riding the bus to the absolute pits of hell and just hoping you're not the CEO to be the one that has to go down with it.

For some reason modern business degree holders don't even consider the possibility of increasing head coubts but instead maximising gains from remaining heads.

Same with employees, they see things like dirty stores and long lines and they try to force employees to work as sanitation crews and implement time limits to make lines faster long before they ever hire somebody new.

they already have an their AI division earns way more than the Windows division. Matters little to them about Windows numbers dropping because in reality PCs as we know it are declining far more rapidly that anyone wants to say

I keep having to remind people around me that phones are the primary computing device for an ever increasing percentage of the population.

Lemmy wants to rail on Windows 11 AND they talk shit about your average person not understanding filesystems.

I think you're right on this. People aren't moving away from MS because of their obnoxious behaviour. They're moving to alternate form factors and dealing with Apple's and Google's obnoxious behaviour instead. People are willing to put up with a metric ton of bullshit so they don't have to actually do anything for themselves.

Exactly. My wife hasn't used an actual computer more than a handful of times in the last several years. She does EVERYTHING on her smartphone.

I have never owned a laptop, because my desktop unit is where I do most of my business stuff, and when I'm away from that, my smartphone is good enough.

Of course, the most important thing isn't that we account for two less computers than a few years ago, but the smartphones that we have replaced laptops with, run Android. So that's actually a net loss of 4 MS products.

And after all these years, Windows products still make me frustrated and infuriated. You'd think they would have honed it to a perfect product by now, but every few years they completely reconfigure the UI, and make us have to navigate a whole new, buggy system.

Yeah this happened in Japan way earlier. Japan got mobile internet much sooner than the rest of the world it was called i-mode. Which was launched in 1999. The home computer boom never happened there like it did in the West. Since everyone just uses their mobile phone to go in the internet and Japanese PCs were expensive. And doing work after hours at home wasn’t a thing since you do that at the office where your boss can see you putting in the work. The only PCs that sold reasonably well were VAIOs since those were relatively compact.

It’s also why computer literacy is very low in Japan, ask anyone who taught in Japan and they will tell you most Japanese high school students don’t know how to use a computer. Like the problems we are seeing now in the West with computer literacy among students they had for decades already.

Looks around my living room, 3 laptops, stationary, 1 nas and a server. 2 laptops are still running windows.

Sad thing is I guarantee they'd keep a majority market share after doing this. Few people would even be aware, and fewer still actually give a shit about their privacy. As for ads on the desktop, that might push people away... but then again, I had to practically force uBlock Origin down my friends' throat after finding that they've had ads on YouTube for years and didn't really care.

Yeah, that wouldn't really do anything, google just announced it for gemini and I don't really see a push back against it, meta wants to compromise the copy right of all creators on its platform and it too was allowed, sadly right now in the name of AI advancement every kind of privacy will be compromised

friendship ended with npu chips now ad-processing-unit chips are my best friend.

These 2023 stats have Chromebook sales at only ~25M units globally, so this is probably the second scenarion, people decommissioning Windows computers and using the phone and/or tablet instead. https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/global-tablet-market-share-Q2-2023

Chromebooks went from "What is that?" To literally everywhere in schools.

Android phones are everywhere.

Google and the Chrome browser really ate into Microsoft's dominance.

And Apple, with people replacing traditional computers with Android and iOS devices.

FYI you can disable that, but yes it’s a shitty new default.

After a blissful decade on Arch Linux, stock Windows enrages me, takes hours to make it somewhat bearable.

You sound grumpy. You probably think computers are supposed to solve real problems too I bet... ha ha ha l o l

M series chips on macbooks are likely helping more.

I just got a cheap minipc to tinker with and it had windows 11. Not bad and unexpected.

First thing I did was wipe and install Ubuntu of course because that's what I wanted.