We tried. I watched rank choice requests fail time and time again, because people vote against it thanks to smear campaigns.

My buddy is in a city with rank choice, and after the most recent election, there was a push to get rid of it again. You can tell by who.

Instead what we have are Republicans trying to outlaw ranked choice voting... They've already had right wing media brainwashing the people into believing it's a really bad thing...

Ranked choice is bare minimum for a democracy these days. Whatever ancient shit the US has doesn't count anymore. Also get rid of the elected tyrant bullshit and upgrade to parliamentary democracy. Then go for mixed-member proportional for extra credit. Also get rid of voting machines and do it all on paper.

I don't know if she should win the nomination,

Her winning the nomination would be Schumer and Pelosi's worst nightmare. They would 100 percent rather lose to Trump than let that happen.

I mean this in the nicest way possible. I don't really care about fixing our international reputation atm. I'm worried about stopping the country from falling apart first. We can fix all the international stuff after.

Kamala showed trump for the idiot he is. Didn't make much of a difference. I think AOC would do much better, but I don't hold out much expectations for debates to influence things. Hell, the current criminal in the white house didn't participate in the Republican primary debates and still, somehow, got a bunch of inbred hillbillies to vote for him.

And the deep-seated sexism of too many independent/moderate voters, unfortunately.

Agreed, no reason to give them reprieve. Let them try again and this time the gerontocracy is weaker then it has ever been.

It's "Democratic" when used as an adjective.

Don't use Rush Limbaugh-speak. (May he rot in hell.)

Just passed the Senate by one vote. Back to the House for the finale vote, which is controlled by Republicans.

It's over fam.

You can kiss this nation goodbye.

Now hunker down for the suffering and death that's sure to follow.

This is what happens when you give conservatives power. Such a profoundly stupid nation of individuals.

Harris/Newsom 2028 because “it’s their turn”

I agree. I want to see AOC have long-term influence over the Democratic party. We're going to need significant reconstruction over the next 4-8 years, and I personally think she would be a bit wasted in that role.

That said, we don't really have an alternative well positioned to run in '28 except Bernie, and I wouldn't blame him for not running (or people being upset about another 80+ year old president).

She would have been better than tan Hillary, she was exactly 35. An establishment centrist was proven a bad choice in 2016.

Because there won't be another election?

You're not wrong. Obama won because he was a corporatist and easily manipulated and ran on empty slogans, so he had the backing of the mainstream. Harris did too, but AOC won't have that backing.

That also means she could run on actual popular policies. Something Trump did. His voters now kinda got the same scam with him than the progressives got with Obama lol.

But there is deeply entrenched propaganda in the media and the minds of people. Like you'd need a movement that comes together. But you can see the liberals in this thread would balk at any tankie demanding and end to US or EU imperialism lol, just like they will balk at putting another women on the ticket.

because two of the worst female candidates ever lost.

One was a Senator, Secretary of State, and former first-lady. The other was a VP. AOC is just a member of the House and half the country wants to burn her at the stake for being so liberal.

She won't win.

I have my doubts

Yeah it's weird, and if there are elections popular opposition candidates will face a fate like mr Navalny, I'm afraid. Much as I would like AOC as a US president, I think at this point, she needs to run for her life rather than for president. And believe me, I truly hate that this is the case.

She is an amazing person and a fantastic leader. However she is the kind of person the fascists fear and she is also the right shade of skin to earn a one way ticket to El Salvador.

You see the people clamoring for the deportation of mr Mamdani, and he is at this point nothing more than one party's possible candidate for mayor of one town. Imagine what would happen if ms Ocasio-Cortez were an actual presidential candidate!?

Even now I worry about her safety often. Same for that wonderful ms Crockett, mr Frost and a few others.

We just going to post this in every thread from now on?

It's the Democrats. They still haven't realized that the game is over. Nobody's playing by the rules. Why would they start during an election?

It is looking more and more like the election was stolen.

Edit: You are blaming Americans for screwing up the previous election becuase this next one will not be fair.....when the last one you are blaming Americans for was already rigged.

Right wingers love the idea of hate-sex

Hope you enjoy losing by not learning anything from the recent past.