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[–] 53 points 10 months ago (7 children)

On the other hand, a Long Island iced tea from Outback Steakhouse is probably just a shot of vodka in a glass of crushed iced filled with sugary brown concentrate.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I haven’t been to one in ages. But I remember them being pretty happy to serve you a big fat giant mug of beer like the size of a pitcher. So I’m guessing they don’t mind giving you a proper Long Island.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    i got a piña colada at red lobster and they gave me a cup the size of the entire table

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Or they do it with half measures of everything, a little more mixer and a shitload of ice.

    Still tastes almost the same but you have to order 6 of them to get utterly wankered not 3.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    That's what a club I used to go to did on 80s night. They used nugget ice (great for chewing on) and the drinks were cheap. So, it was a win-win. I could drink all night and not be totally wasted, and the drink was delicious. Only time I'd go to that club.

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  • [–] 43 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Concentrated power of will.

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  • [–] 70 points 10 months ago
    [–] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (20 children)

    It's always amazing when you find out how much more your parents generation drinks than you do. How much more their parents generation drank than they did. And how much more their great grandparents drank then all of y'all combined. This entire nation was hammered pretty much constantly.

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    Except for the bootleggers and speakeasies, wink wink.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Sure, but lack of access actually did reduce general consumption. The average person doesn't drink more during prohibition.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Lack of access only reduced consumption among those who lost access. For those who were consuming bootleg their consumption increased. Often to harder liqours for obvious reasons.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Yeah. That's the point. Reducing access has an effect. That's basic basic economics. So is the expectation that forbidding the sale of something so easy to make would create a robust informal market. But informal markets usually lock out casual consumers as they don't care or want to spend the time or effort to find a trustworthy contact for A bottle of wine.

    This isn't rocket science, this is super basic economics.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Alcohol consumption went up for many people. Way up.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    For some. Which is not enough to raise averages.

    Look, I've just finished a bottle of wine, so I'm no teatotler. But what data does exist shows the immediate post-21st Amendment years as lower than pre-18th years. Prohibition was an overall failure, and I celebrate Repeal Day. but it did actually reduce the national average of alcohol consumption for a time.

    https://theconversation.com/how-prohibition-changed-the-way-americans-drink-100-years-ago-129854

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Does that track reported consumption or alcohol related ailments?

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    Not sure how reliable it is, then. Or it could be that drinking culture bifurcated, where casual drinking stopped, and you either made it your life or did without, and a lot of the former category fucking died.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Yeah, exactly. Tons of economics research shows how often people don't step out of line, so lack of access has real effects. Prohibition locked out casual drinkers and people with no trustworthy connect to a bootlegger.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Ha jokes on you, my great great grandfather ran a mule train up from Mexico loaded with liquor. Traded it for hard ciders and shine from the other Celtic families in the area, kept a mule worth himself though.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    One set of my great grandparents met as a "musician for a speakeasy" (given some stories there's no way it was just that) and a dancer for one.

    Which makes it extra hilarious how much their daughter (one of my grandmas) really really obsessed over having the appearance of being high society. Definitely an over-correction. Ended up marrying into money, but was never high society.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago

    Reason to remember the name

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    [–] 31 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Most places will limit you to like two of those kinds of drinks. First time I learned this I thought I was being cut off. I was like “did I do something wrong?” They said no, you can order anything else. Just not more of those.

    Which is odd, because they’ll let you order a beer and a shot as many times as you want, and that will fuck me up way more, for some reason.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    You can taste it a lot more in a beer or shot. Its much less likely to sneak up on you, with how much alcohol is in a long Island, and the fact you can hardly taste it.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I gotta try one cuz I hear this all the time, but the ingredients are nothing but alcohol. Is it like there's just so much it cancels out the alcohol taste? 🤔

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Depends on how it's made. I've had some (of varying strengths) where this was true, and others where the alcohol was more than apparent.

    I've had margaritas like this, too. Unless it's really strong, in which case you're going to taste it no matter what.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    As yellow said, if it's properly mixed, the effect is to be a very sweet iced tea taste where the alcohol is nearly unnoticeable. It's probably due to the mixer/syrup just obliterating the harshness of the alcohol. Before I gave up drinking, it was definitely one of the few drinks that could sneak up and kick you in the ass if you weren't paying attention.

    The fact of sweet mixed drinks getting into you faster likely is also a contributing factor, and the classic liquors that they use are 'sugar heavy.'

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    A proper long Island is about 5 ounces of liquid with 4 of them being liquor. That's way more potent than a bee and a shot.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    The "classic" is 5x15ml of liquor, you're supposed to do half measures for the classic mix. That's ~24ml of pure alcohol, about the same as a strong Double or a medium Triple beer.

    IF you're doing half measures, which most places won't, because that gets the bartender shouted at.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago
    [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    He didn't...

    It's time to carry on, Angie. The Morning has come, so the Dream must end.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    He always drove better after a few drinks.

    /S

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Dad probably wondered the same thing

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    Luckily the car knew the way.

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