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[–] 77 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Lol electric lighting was the 5G of the late 1800s.

Surprised we don't have signs like that now. Not that we'd notice them for all the other hundred warning labels on everything.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Even if we had the labels, the 5G doubters would be like this

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Edison was responsible for a big part of that with his anti-AC schtick

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Wtf is that, I ain't clickin' that

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    It links to this image:

    @AxExRx@lemmy.world could have just inserted it inline.

    Edit: I can't believe I forgot to jump at the chance to display some nerd cred, but this is an illustration from James Thurber's autobiography, My Life And Hard Times. It accompanies a story about an elderly aunt or similar who is not quite up to speed on how electricity works and goes around tightening all of the light bulbs because she's afraid it's going to "leak."

    During the initial electrification of the world, a lot of people apparently didn't understand electricity. Instead they stuck to paradigms that they already knew, which at the time would have been gas or kerosene lamps which can indeed leak β€” with results that may or may not end in a fireball chasing someone down a hallway. It makes sense in a strange sort of way, but it's also a fascinating case study on just how bad people have been at grasping abstract concepts for centuries and that's not just a recent dumbing down of the populace.

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Y'know, it's not fully accurate. It totally disrupts sound sleep, lol

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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    Funny enough, there were complaints of people's sleep being effected by the switch electric lights. Because theyd gotten used to sleeping in a room with some amount of carbon monoxide and other toxic off gasses from burning things like kerosene.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    That hit me like a much much worse version of the XKCD comic about somebody's workflow and "please add an option to re-enable spacebar heating."

    "I am set in my ways and find that my routine maintains my humours most divinely. Please just re-enable sleepy time CO, sandman soot, and funny fumes."

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Had a coworker who refused her new office because it had a circuit breaker panel in the wall. Her husband told her it caused cancer. I explained that any EM coming around that steel door was barely detectable and wasn't ionizing radiation. Pointed to a sunbeam on the floor, "That's cancer causing radiation."

    I know that sounds like I got all snotty about it, but I have social skills, explained it gently without condensation.

    "Shalafi, you just think you know everything! Anyway, I believe my husband." Whose expertise in laying sheetrock belies his physics knowledge.

    Best part? She posted a pic of her and her husband working up a tan on their boat that weekend.

    Some men, you just can't reach...

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    I've dealt with people like that before.

    The easiest solution is to solve magical bullshit with magical bullshit.

    "Oh you're right! Let me get the special magnet that blocks out the cancer causing stuff from the inventory people".

    Then you go out, get a random magnet, and just stick it on there.

    I once dealt with someone who thought being close to a router caused cancer.

    So I put a key ring "cage loop" on top of it that forced the internet waves into the ceiling instead.

    These people don't understand technology -it's just magic to them. So you give them magical solutions every time.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It makes me so sad to imagine that this worked that I have instead decided you must be a bot. Sorry

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    I understand at the existential dread of realizing people are dumber than you can imagine, because we probably don't consider ourselves smart, just average at best, but as the old saying goes, "imagine the average dumbest person you know, and realize that half are dumber than that".

    Moving to Finland years ago did wonders for my sanity, because at least people are on average better educated here, and they actually do know basic things about stuff they use daily, like electricity and WiFi.

    People really don't know how electromagnetic things work in general though I suppose, especially in the USA.

    Using the key ring isn't even a completely original idea - I got it from remembering these "healing bracelets" exist.

    That's also why I recommended to Shalafi to just stick a magnet to it. Magnets are magic to a lot of people.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    We have a Victorian house from 1892. Earlier this year we renovated the bathroom. We installed a high-tank toilet, and we're planning on changing the switches to retro push button switches.

    I'm thinking I should replicate this sign and post it in the bathroom.

    The light switch for the bathroom used to be outside the bathroom which confused everyone. Now everyone expects the switch to be outside so they don't know where to look for it. Maybe a sign would help.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    In a world without modern circuit breakers or GFI outlets, perhaps they wanted to keep the switch away from any water.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Either that, or there was already a switch there when the powder room was added.

    They used part of the original kitchen to create the powder room. The kitchen ceiling is still above the powder room ceiling and there is a (no longer used) stove pipe running above the powder room ceiling to where the kitchen stove most likely was.

    The old switch would have been exactly where it needed to be for the original kitchen.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Instructions unclear. Tried to light the key on the wall by the door with a match.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Nor does it affect the soundness of sleep

    What if I have trouble sleeping when it isn't dark?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    There was a story about Will Rogers.

    He once went to a hotel with new fangled gas lighting. He assumed you just blew out the flame like a candle. He almost died from inhaling gas.

    Years later he was in a hotle that had the new fangled electric bulbs. Not wanting to repeat his prior mistake, he put the bulb in the dresser and left it there all night.

    Will rogers wiki

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Rogers

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Apparently, 'light' does not affect 'sound'

    Except for the buzzing...

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Copilot of the 1800s hahaha

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    nor does it affect the soundness of sleep.

    It's fun to see earlier examples of corporate gaslighting.

    That thing you experienced? You didn't.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    In which way does electric lighting affect sleep? If you turn the lights off, no current flows so there's not even any slight EM radiation to worry about. It's just inert materials at that point, isn't it?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    If you turn the lights off, no current flows so there's not even any slight EM radiation to worry about. It's just inert materials at that point, isn't it?

    Now that you brought up EM radiation, let me tell you what has been hidden from you:

    Detailed discourse on the hazards of EMF, and a chance to buy my unique solution.

    Nah. I'm just fucking with you. Not everyone on the Internet is nuts - only most of us.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)
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    But when light bulbs were invented, they were incandescent and much redder and dimmer. If you burn them too hot, the filaments would melt. Therefore there wasn't much blue light if any released by early light bulbs

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    What exactly was experienced here?

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    What exactly was experienced here?

    Having trouble getting to sleep after sitting in a room full of electric lights.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Is that a situation you find yourself in often?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    ...yes.

    I avoid it whenever possible by setting my indoor lights to mimic the natural local light.

    I do this because a few different scientists have asserted that artificial light affects human sleep patterns.

    I could get you a reference, but I'm not really sure we are discussing this in good faith.

    Am I being gaslit for bringing up gaslighting?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    I avoid it whenever possible by setting my indoor lights to mimic the natural local light.

    You use your electric lights to help counteract all that electric light exposure you get all day?

    Are you thinking of something more specific, or are you rocking some kind of sweet adjustable gas lamp?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    You use your electric lights to help counteract all that electric light exposure you get all day?

    I mean, it's not the electricity that is the problem, it's just the total light level.

    The human brain and eyeball take all kinds of sleep readiness cues from the amount of light in the environment.

    I use some dimmer switches, and some lamps with low-lumen bulbs installed.

    Sometimes I set up I timers to make the brighter lights turn off and the softwer ones turn on, as my bedtime approahes.

    Most phones will also automatically adjust their screen to match the light level in a room, so addressing the room lighting also helps address the light being output by the phone screen. PCs need more help.

    Linux Mint has a nice option to adjust monitor brightness and hue based on local time of day.

    We also now know that the amount of blue light specifically influences sleep patterns more than other spectrums of light, so I have filters on my laptops and phones that change the screen hue toward orange after certain hours in the evening.

    Back when my phone was too stupid to adjust it's own light level, a blue light blocker made a huge difference. Now I don't notice it as much - probably because the phone puts out far less total light, in the evening. But I figure a blue light filter doesn't hurt, even if it isn't doing as much as it used to.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Oh I agree with everything you're saying here. I use the night mode on my phone AND in Linux Mint!

    I've done RGB light bulbs in the past to set them to more orange/red colors at night, but now i've switched to 2700K bulbs with high CRI/TM-30 ratings that I can just dim way down and selectively turn off.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    i've switched to 2700K bulbs with high CRI/TM-30 ratings that I can just dim way down and selectively turn off.

    That's good to know that's an option. I might look into that for the next iteration. Thanks!

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