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Canadians crossing U.S. land borders will now be photographed | National (dailyhive.com)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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[–] 37 points 10 months ago

Add it to the mountain of reasons I'm not likely to cross the border and give them any money anytime soon.

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    [–] 29 points 10 months ago

    I'd care more, but I don't see myself crossing into that shit hole again in my lifetime.

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    [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Stop going there

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    • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

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    [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This Canadian will be staying away until the possibility of being sent to an gulag is off the table.

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    • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    My aunt travelled very recently to the States, but because she wasn’t subject to being ID’d my dad has been singing fake news for the last few days.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    My guess is that it is still in the process of being implemented.

    And my guess is that they are implementing this everywhere to prevent people who want to overstay their visa to have a loophole.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    That would be the stated reasons.

    It's what else they'll do with all that juicy personal information that concerns me.

    Then again, I (and a lot of other canadians) didn't need any additional reasons to not go there, so it's not changing my plans to stay away from Trumpistan.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    How did she enter? Because airports have had portrait photos taken when going through customs for years now. At the land borders, cars are photographed and x-rayed at the border, and the only time they don't ask you for ID is when they already know who you are (from something like Nexus). Maybe there's crossings in rural areas that have way less security?

    I've been traveling back and forth for the last 10-ish years, and I'm honestly confused as to what exactly is changing. It sounds like they might be adding additional checkpoints for exiting the country and taking photos at that point? I guess I'll find out on my next crossing.

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    • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I wonder if dazzle camouflage will still work to beat facial recognition software, or it it's improved in five years? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/01/privacy-campaigners-dazzle-camouflage-met-police-surveillance

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    [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Please stop going to America.

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    [+] -7 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I have a Nexus card. They have my complete background, finger prints, iris scans, and facial biometrics. Who fucking cares? It's just a pedofascist flex. Just yawn at them. It will drive them crazy that you're not bothered.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Bend over harder. That'll show them.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Do you think that the US didn't photograph you dozens of times every time you crossed the border? Do you think that the airlines and Canadian government don't share information about you when you travel? Do you think they don't monitor your phone calls? Do you think they don't monitor your social media?

    I've working in nation state level information security for 15 years and boy, do I have news for you.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    ^ when someone is putting their finger up your ass, tell them to put their whole fist in!.. that'll show 'em

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

    If you think they haven't had their fist in your ass for years I have to question the tightness of your asshole. All they're doing now is telling you that they have their fist in your ass to get a rise out of you and you're giving them what they want. MAGA has a hardon for cruelty. I'm suggesting that you look them straight in the eye and say, "Mmmmm, daddy!"

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    If you think they haven’t had their first in your ass for years I have to question the tightness of your asshole

    I see you judge by your own experience... I never provided all possible identifiers to get a Nexus and I am definitely not setting foot in the USA in the foreseeable future.

    But you do you, show em by volunteering all your data and spending you money there... that'll show em

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Yes, being gainfully employed by the Canadian subsidiary of US company that requires me to travel to the US once a year does colour my perspective but by all means go on fighting the good fight.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I used to go to the USA way more often than that and still never trusted all my data to Nexus to save 15 mins in line... again, you do you bud

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Nexus routinely saves me more than an hour at the airport and TSA Pre does the same in the US. I had more than 150 flights in 2019, a third to the US and half international and Nexus saved me a lot of time and hassle. My world may just be bigger than yours so Nexus has a much bigger impact for me than it would for you.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Funny you said you only had to go once a year, not 50 times... but whatever dude, as I have said, four times by now, you do you... if you need to justify yourself to me, you should reflect upon that

    Yes, being gainfully employed by the Canadian subsidiary of US company that requires me to travel to the US once a year does colour my perspective but by all means go on fighting the good fight.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Ah, the classic childish gotcha!

    I had more than 150 flights in 2019, more than 20 in the first two months of 2020, then the pandemic hit and I didn't fly for 750 days. When the pandemic restrictions eased my company asked me to go back on the road but I refused. I'm senior enough and valuable enough that I can do that. Now, I chose when I travel and I chose not to travel to the US at all except for SKO which I have to attend.

    I'm don't feel any need to "justify" myself to anyone. I'm trying to help you to understand that other people may have different lived experiences and different responsibilities than you do and that some people's worlds are bigger than yours and don't allow them to live in black and white.

    I hope this helps.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    Ah, the classic childish gotcha!

    What gotcha? you just contradicted yourself in a way that changes the conversation

    I’m don’t feel any need to “justify” myself to anyone.

    yet here we are still...

    I’m trying to help you to understand that other people may have different lived experiences and different responsibilities than you do

    AGAIN, this I understand... when you said you do ONE trip to the USA per year, I opined I did not think it was worth giving up all the data to the Nexus conglomerate... now you come say you basically live on a plane, see how that changes the conversation?

    AND ONCE AGAIN >>>>>> YOU DO YOU BUD <<<<< I could not care less about what you do!

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    [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I used to cross the border with just a driver's license, because the drinking age was 19 in Canada. Sometimes the Canadians would search my car on entry, but never had any problems more than that. Coming back, the US side would just check your ID then wave you through.

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    [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Don't they have a border there where they should present some documents? Foreign passport or something? This kind of papers already have photo. And even a name. And many other data.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I concur, photographic information is already standard for international travel, so this is really not a big deal. I am way more concerned about things like proposed changes to require visitors to list their last five years of social media accounts.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    so this is really not a big deal.

    I wanted to say... something different. Why bother with photographing if they already have photos of travelers? Sounds illogical.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Maybe to match against the passport photos. Some people travel with other similar-looking people's IDs, and it can be missed by inspectors. So having an current photo of the traveler can be used in post-hoc investigations to determine if they did so.

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