For anyone else that is interested in what came of him:
Xu was expelled from the CCP and sentenced to five years in prison. He lived the rest of his life exiled from Beijing and died in 2021 at the age of 85.
For anyone else that is interested in what came of him:
Xu was expelled from the CCP and sentenced to five years in prison. He lived the rest of his life exiled from Beijing and died in 2021 at the age of 85.
Qinxian made a decision that saved countless lives, much like Arkhipov in the 60s.
General Xu was 100% correct. The entire CCP and high ranking PLA officers should have been thrown into a courtroom and sent to prison for murder.
Don't worry, I've been told by users that it didn't happen, and that if it did, it wasn't what we saw, and it wasn't that bad, and that, if it was, they deserved it.
It is really crazy that this weird china apologism is so common here.
Its the type of shit you'd expect to see more on reddit, but instead its on lemmy way more.
It's all AI anyway. If you saw tank man before, you are being lied to by western propaganda.
Ai in 1989 was so advanced lol
Like, duh? It's all laid out in Neuromancer. 🤷♂️
ICE was black back then, too.
Imagine if 2020 had AI becoming this popular.
Pretty sure there would be conspiracy theories that accuse the George Floyd's murder video of being "AI"
The future is so cooked.
I’ve been told by users that it didn’t happen
Don't be shy. Name some names.
Notice how you cannot state what you saw because in reality the entire thing was recorded by international media and it literally did not happen on video.
"It did not happen" thanks for demonstrating my point
The US media was heavy handed in reporting the Federal response but deathly quiet reporting the mob violence and killing perpetrated by the rioters.
Talking about Tianeman while fixating on Tank Man is a bit like only referring to J6 by holding up photos of Ashli Babbitt taken the day before. Or reporting on the LA Riots exclusively from the perspective of the Roof Koreans. Or holding up photos of Iranian girls in swimsuits any time someone mentions the '79 revolution. Or quoting Elon Musk on White Genocide In South Africa. Or doing the "Haitians are eating the dogs and cats" line to explain our modern immigration policies.
It's the same right wing propaganda liberals seem to recognize in their own backwards, but refuse to accept could have been applied to poison them against another country's people.
Great, now reveal all epstein files without black outs.
It seems like all empires are horrible to me. Humans suck, especially when they have power
Yeah.
There’s lots of instances throughout history that prove that humans with power suck.
I like to think that it’s because nice people aren’t the type to accumulate power rather than power corrupts nice people who do get power.
I think we make the mistake of letting people govern groups of people that they are too distant from to care about. Leaders are essential, but they have to care about the people they lead. I dont think its actually possible to care about people a thousand miles away the same way as the people in your community. I think this is why the largest countries that are controlled by the fewest people have the most problems. Its a delegation issue essentially.
It's a flaw of empires in general. They become this pervasive machine where ends always justify the means and there's just too much power and slow rare of change. Just a bad system no matter how you look at it.
A good point. Though I was surprised to read this particular dissident only got 5 years in prison and exile from Beijing.
Did they kill him?
He went to prison for 5 years and then lived into his 80s.
They killed him in the slowest way possible 😔
Too bad China kills good people.
He wasn't killed, he was court marshalled and released five years later. He died in '21 at the ripe old age of 85
But the protesters were.

Protestors burned alive in their APC by the nefarious CCP Street Clothes division
Lmfao it doesn't get more tankie than mourning the loss of a fucking tank.
Now let's all laugh about the pictures of actual crushed, shot and mutilated humans [NSFL]. Are these people plain clothes PLA killed by uh... students false flagging as tank drivers?
Seems like I touched a nerve
Nice deflection!
But I do agree, seems like you hit your own nerve reading these comments. Having trouble stomaching the fact that blind support for "AES" means cheering for the jack boots running over hunger striking students? Keep digging up conspiracies and excuses, you'll beat that cognitive dissonance eventually.
Literally not an empire. Don't get your terms mixed!
Then what do you call what they're doing in Africa?
Same thing the US does, no? Except China is more efficient
It doesn't matter. Folks see a foreign country doing foreign things foreign-ly, rather than toeing the NATO line, and they're evil incarnate.
Meanwhile, NATO allies - from the Brits to the Saudis to the insanely corrupt Philippian government - go fully under the radar of liberals.
China's biggest crime right now is their success. They aren't being crippled by sanctions like Cuba, gunned down like Venezuela, or systematically genocided like Palatine. So they must be doing the most nightmarish things imaginable to their people - and to the rest of the world - in order to no-sell American foreign policy.
Success?
https://www.dw.com/en/china-property-real-estate-housing-xi-jinping-economy/a-75074157
Peaceful?
Not doing terrible things to their citizens?
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/04/world/china-overseas-police-stations-intl-cmd
Success
Why China's property crash must be kept top secret
Cheap Housing... Bad?
Peaceful?
This analysis contends that China’s aggressive actions represent a deliberate violation of international maritime law and the South China Sea Code of Conduct.
A South China Sea code of conduct has been under discussion for over two decades.
You broke a set of rules we haven't even defined yet!
Not doing terrible things to their citizens?
China signs police patrol agreements with nations
In 2016, an Italian police official told NPR that joint policing would “lead to a wider international cooperation, exchange of information and sharing resources to combat the criminal and terrorist groups that afflict our countries.”
Those monsters.
Cheap housing good. Collapsing industry so houses can't continue to be built where needed and so that houses can't be maintained is bad.
Violating other countries sea borders isn't undefined.
Yes, monsters when they kidnap dissidents and call them terrorists.
Collapsing industry so houses can’t continue to be built
Data released by the National Bureau of Statistics on Monday showed that nationwide residential housing starts fell 19.9% year-on-year in the first 11 months of 2025 to 392 million square meters, while new home sales dropped 8.1% to 658 million square meters.
So demand is off it's peak, but they're still building about half a Cleveland's worth of homes this year.
I wouldn't consider that an economy which has forgotten how to build housing.
Violating other countries sea borders isn’t undefined.
Whose borders?
Yes, monsters when they kidnap dissidents and call them terrorists.
Does murdering your pregnant girlfriend make you a dissident?
Wait for the bankruptcies
All the nearby borders
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/12/world/asia/china-nepal-borders.html
https://voiceofvienna.org/india-accuses-china-of-violating-border-agreements/
So yeah you're pretending that's the only thing happening, and that regular extradition wouldn't be possible
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/kidnap-rfa-cartoonist-prince-group-05132024161304.html
Time to change some of my challenge responses on some of my equipment to include him as the greatest chinese citizen. I have the standard remember Tiananmen Square response. Always fun to let them port scan and attempt to brute force with those responses.
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