Someone's smelling the year of the desktop

They don't care, my parents laptop was decently mid-range spec bar storage, manufacturer put in a 5400RPM spinning rust drive. It was damn near unusable, crap from the factory.

Was forced to use it once when visiting and noticed the performance, put an SSD in it and it's been a fine laptop since. They're perfectly willing to hobble a laptop to save a buck.

Minix and FreeBSD...

/runs; hides

Linux adoption.. accelerates

I run fedora on 8GB and find it functional but definitely not comfortable. Anything past a dozen tabs and it starts getting choked up.

You're thinking of CP/M, right?

No OS if fine with 8GB if you use it for anything other than browsing memes

It's the year of the Linux desktop!

I agree, funny enough they require minimum 4 GB, but I had problems with it with 16 GB. 8 GB is nowhere near enough, especially if you use excel, teams, and that crap.

Or more realistically be used as an excuse for always online cloud based services a la office 365. "We would let you download the app, but most users don't have the computing power so instead we'll just make this a helpful subscription!"

At least one studio, Larian, has confirmed this is the case for them.

When discussing the pressures the company faces when releasing a game in early access, such as audience expectations, Vincke told us, "Interestingly, another [issue Larian is facing] is really the price of RAM and the price of SSDs and f**k, man. It's like, literally, we've never had it like this."

He continued, "It kind of ruins all of your projections that you had about it because normally, you know the curves, and you can protect the hardware. It's gonna be an interesting one. It means that most likely, we already need to do a lot of optimization work in early access that we didn't necessarily want to do at that point in time. So it's challenging, but it's video games."

Keeping it positive, nice.

In the world of AI vibe coding, I don't think so, they will push people even more towards web apps I think

that would require the software companies to actually spend money on competent developers instead of tossing peanuts at prompt writers.

It’s like if batteries got stupid expensive and they tried to tell us 200km of range is what you get in a touring EV these days. But the distances between all the places haven’t changed…

Isn’t the issue here the newest generation? I keep reading they’re way less tech savvy than the rest of us. Blended in with the propensity for young people to have an iPhone or Android and no PC, well, this junk will likely slide right by.

I am honestly not sure if that's a bad thing aside from the capitalism of it all. Almost all tasks normal people do could be done with a 10 year old computer running Linux.

I will find it hilarious if this RAM pricing issue causes people to move to Linux rather than have slow ass Windows 11.

Or web applications, Firefox/Chrome uses like 32 GB RAM and constantly crashes my computer because of it

thank you. came here to say this.

or, well, it also doesn't play well with ARM, i.e. on macbooks the ram isn't the bottle neck, its the CPU struggling with electron despite objectively being faster than x86 equivalents.

Those soldered low RAM ones are going to be in the dump a lot sooner.

lmao of course it's gonna be soldered in to push you to higher tiers

Swap is a thing. It'll kinda suck, but not as much as it would have pre-nvme. Except that now there's an nvme shortage... and an SSD shortage.

Ugh, I guess I'll just put Windows 2000/ME on there to complete the retro look.

You could technically boot it… Not for long, and don’t open anything, but still counts, right?

concidering they were shipping windows 11 systems on 4 gigs of ram and selling it, I expect it won't change much. They worked like shit but they still sold. You make it cheap enough people will buy it regardless of flaws or speed.

I wonder what's going to happen to the electron frontends if machines are bottlenecked by ram so bad. Wasn't facebook just planning to switch whatsapp's frontend to webview as well? And win11's desktop is electron too. Everyone was acting like ram is unlimited.

I have win11 on a work surface laptop pro with 16gb and I'm consistently at 15+GB used. This is corporate bloat. How do I know? I have a personal surface pro 6 with win11 and 16gb and it runs like a breeze.

Corporate bloat is such bullshit.

Company computers often come with pre-installed spyware which is notoriously RAM hungry. My company laptop immediately after boot uses nearly a full 16gb before you open any programs. Luckily our IT department realizes this and only allows us to purchase machines with 32GB and up. They're probably not happy with the current prices, but being a F500 company they can afford it...

...do we really need to use the word "raping" to talk about PC performance or can we agree that there are a hundred other words that fit better in that spot?

EDIT: Wooo free downvotes. Y'all are a bunch of snowflakes. I tried to make a point on behalf of others, since there are people who have traumatic lived experience with the concept of "rape" and would probably prefer not to be reminded of it. Nobody serious about computing is going to go out and say "this process is raping the performance" because it's just not a good idea. I bet you (if in tech field) wouldn't say it in front of your boss. But sure, call me sensitive and pull out a semantic argument.

I can smell you through your screen. Go take a shower and try being human.