I opened a thread just yesterday and the top comment was "I recommend you read this article if you want to know what Noam Chomsky is really like". It was upvoted. I like to learn things, and don't really listen to a lot of Chomsky. So I started reading.

It was the most uneducated, biased, ragebait crap I'd ever seen posted to the fediverse. I started mentally building my reply about how "people are saying" is the worst kind of fallacy, and providing a quote from someone else with a different opinion doesn't count as opposing evidence. I actually got a little upset, disillusioned even, wondering how anyone could fall for this idiotic "argument". I didn't agree or disagree with any point, but it was just so poorly made.

I went to reply, thinking I should provide some warning, then I noticed I was in an ml community. I'm mobile, so it sometimes doesn't show the community until I've clicked (I know I can change that in the settings). I considered posting anyway, but it felt so fruitless. It feels like they're either sheep or assets. I moved on. I feel better getting to let it out here instead.

Honestly I will half agree with you. Really we should be providing primary sources if we want to prove anything.

Not because I don't believe socialist news sources are inaccurate it's just that liberals are not going to believe it.

As someone leaning ML, this makes me feel like I haven't argued with my own side in a while..... Or I am less ML than I think I am.....

I have an ML account and usually just jump back and forth between .world local posts and .ml local posts and I swear I'm not seeing all this hostility people talk about anywhere

Tankies are lefties alright. Just braindead ones

Nah, they chose it because the ccTLD along with few others had been free for a long time. I was there when lemmy was just a few months old.

Someone made up these reference about marx/lenin claim and was perfect for wankies to circle jerk and the tankies didn't refute it or went along with it, so it stuck.

Before that the free domains were mostly used for spam/phishing (because it was free and being similar to .mil), some called it machine learning, my links, my library and so on. US military sent lots of emails to this cctld because of unchecked typo.

Except lemmy (& maybe reddit? to detract people from the fediverse), the .ml domain is not considered marxlenin anywhere else.

https://dev.to/bauripalash/lets-get-your-own-free-domain-5f16

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/15vrq8o/now_with_freenom_closed_is_there_any_other_way_to/

https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/18/us_military_mali_email_typos/

Marx was a socialist political philosopher, that helped define the social end goal of communism. Lenin was a militant revolutionary that thought he could ignore Marx's slow natural social evolution to communism. And force it under authoritarian boot heel. He was aspirationally communist at best, but not communist. His ideology has failed to achieve it everywhere it was tried. Generally, creating a new class of Petit Bourgeoisie or even collapsing into open fascism.

Other than that you are correct. Lemmy.ml hexbear.ml and lemmygrad.ml all chose the Mali TLD because of the abbreviation.

Now we just need Posadist Lemmy

A lot of instances defederated from the .ml ones

Last time I checked, infosec.pub was the only instance of any nontrivial size (319 users / month) that was defederated from lemmy.ml.

Cut off from several instances for the behavior of others

Name them please. Because as far as I know, its a few small ones with barely any traffic?

Sure, but seeing posts like this encouraging discounting other people based on the instance they signed up on doesn't make me want to switch instances so I can spend more time with them. Posts like these make it harder to care about what I'm missing tbh.

If we're missing more animosity like this thread then we're probably not missing much at all.

Cut off from several instances

which instances?

When I say I don't usually engage with these types of posts, it's because I remember several others like it that I chose to ignore. Checking OPs history, it seems they posted every other one that I remember. I don't count it as a loss at all if people like this make their own decision to block ml because I'd rather not see this kind of drama all the time. It doesn't matter to me if they see it as a loss or a gain, I'm still gonna be here engaging with and helping people who need help in various communities. To me it's not a loss if someone isn't able to receive my help if they decide that it's not worth it to them - that's their decision to make, and I'd rather not worry about people who are going to behave like OP.

The constant handwringing and wishing about ml users suffering more from being blocked because you don't like certain users honestly reeks of a sore ex who wants to twist the knife. If ml bothers certain users (I'm looking at OP especially) then just block ml and stop posting about it repeatedly (looking at you OP).

In terms of the actual characters used to write it, .nl is very close to .ml