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[–] 54 points 10 months ago

100%. I'll take my chances with the mostly empty ocean for a few years over dealing with capitalism trying to kill me for 40+ more years for the crime of being poor.

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  • [–] 91 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    30s per day of mild-to-moderate discomfort for 5 years, or working an average of 6 hours per day for virtually my entire life.

    This was clearly written by someone with an intense and irrational fear of the sea. Nothing's doing shit to you in 30 seconds. Most creatures wouldn't even register your presence quickly enough to even think about doing anything.

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  • [–] 43 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Especially the surface of the open ocean. There's little out there compared to near land. And even if you happened to pop near a shark feeding frenzy, for 30 seconds hold your breath, let yourself sink if that happens, and just don't move at all.

    As written it's just five years 365 times. The odds are very good for survival. To make it more questionable, have the owed time be five years total in your life of 30 seconds accumulated. Still the same factors apply, 30 seconds isn't a life risk. Add in the choice of extending any of these to longer than 30 seconds before the pop to use up the time. Now survival becomes questionable if you gamble too much or at the wrong time.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    To make it more questionable, have the owed time be five years total in your life of 30 seconds accumulated.

    Unless my math is wrong, which is super possible cuz I’m not particularly skilled with math, this isn’t possible. I just looked up seconds in a day and did a couple quick divisions (86,400 seconds in a day, divide by 30 for the number of swims, then divide by 365 for number of years it would take). So might be way off.

    A single day in that arrangement appears to take almost 8 (7.89) years of daily 30-second swims. You’d never reach 5 years, it would just be a permanent condition of your life at that point. You might accumulate an entire fortnite before you die if you start very young (14 days would be 110.5 yrs).

    Edit to fix number

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I mean, it would be extremely possible to be exceedingly uncomfortable to dangerous.

    You could end up in the middle of a group of jellyfish, on a shoreline with heavy waves crashing you against rocks, in glacial Antarctic waters, on top of barnacle-covered rocks cutting your feet, in front of a ship barreling down upon you, in an oil spill... the entire premise is that it's random. Many teleports would be safe, but any might not be.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Nods. Don’t forget you get 50 skip days. 50. I’d burn a couple of those if I was in the middle of something at end up with like 47 left.

    I like swimming in the middle of nowhere. 30 seconds wouldn’t be enough for the absolute tranquility…I mean…if you weren’t in the middle of a storm, which would be also fine for 30 seconds.

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  • [–] 115 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Surface of the ocean or anywhere from the deepest trench up?

    Surface, no brainer, I can swim for 30s. Below the surface, you'll be like the surfaced blob fish before the end of the first month.

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  • [–] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    I tend to agree. I usually claim that I can't swim, as what I do doesn't really constitute swimming, but I can stay afloat and move in a deliberate direction.

    A complicating factor: Swells and bad weather make it a lot harder. But on the flipside, no matter how badly it goes, if I'm teleported back in 30s I'd just fill my lungs beforehand. I can hold my breath for much longer than that, and even if I couldn't, it would take more than 30s to die from oxygen deprivation - just make sure I have EMTs on standby for when I return.

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The only real danger seems to be getting slammed against some rocks or getting bitten by something

    But if it's truly random, the second one becomes a lot less likely?

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    I think you gotta be reeeeally unlucky to be eaten by something within 30 seconds of arriving.

    And the chances for dangerous shore positioning are really slim because the ocean is fucking huge. I'd say chances are that you won't even be able to see land during all of those 30 second rounds. Source: I work with/on ships

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You know what time it is so you could hyper oxygenate for a few minutes and be fine. 30 seconds isn’t that long and I don’t think it’s long enough to trigger the bends.

    I’d do it at any survivable depths, especially since it said you’d have safety equipment, even though I’m not sure you’d need that either in 30 seconds.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I think bends only applies if you inhale compressed air at low depths and come up, because the 1L of air at -200m expands as you go up. Air you breath at sea level would compress down to nothing, which might mean that your chest cavity gets crushed, even at levels that are normally okay for divers. Rapid changes in either direction are what kills you.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    I can hold my breath for 30 seconds. If I know it's going to happen I'll prepare with a full lung.

    I assume I won't be sent to something like the marianas trench where the pressure either coming or going would kill me, and since after the 30 seconds I'll be dry even if I mess up and take in some seawater worst case it will be a terrible few minutes of gasping when I'm back.

    Edit: I have no idea how "I won't be sent to", got turned into "intelligent" by autocorrect.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Marianas trench would crush your chest cavity and blowout your eardrums, so I dont think you'll survive 30s there.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That was an autocorrect issue. I literally said "I won't be sent to" and somehow my voice to text changed it to "intelligent"

    I literally meant that assuming that the rules of the game didn't mean you would be instantly killed, then you had an incredibly high chance of surviving.

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    As long as it's survivable, piece of cake. Very unlikely to be eaten, freeze to death, etc in 30 seconds and if it's unbearable 50 skips. Too easy unless it's at any depth. Then it's far more likely to die. Way more volume than surface area.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    You can hold your breath for 30s easy

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Not at 100 meters deep, you can’t!

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    There are depths of the sea where divers have to use special exotic mixes of gas because the pressure pushes gases into your bones and stuff. Divers going into and coming out of these areas have to do so very slowly. Look into saturation diving and barotrauma if this topic is interesting. But the gist is, if you're getting teleported anywhere in the ocean, not just the surface, you're screwed. You simply cannot go from normal air pressure, to depth pressure, back to normal air pressure that quickly and not have problems.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    My intuition was a bit off, if seems. My point was that at a certain depth, the pressure will start wreaking havoc with your internals. But the free dive record seems to be 126 meters, so I obviously should have gone with a bigger number 😅

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    If you remember to take a deep breath. My ADHD ass would 100% forget by day 3.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    DW about the ADHD. If you took a deep breath and suddenly transported to several hundred metres down, the pressure change would cause your lungs to implode. A similar fate to OceanGate except the debris would be your chest.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Most of the human body is solid or roughly equal in density to water, however not all of it is, namely the lungs. Getting suddenly teleported to the Titanic would subject your body to crushing pressure. Somehow I think that might be unsurvivable.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Surface of the ocean? So, no chance of randomly arriving at submarine-crushing depths?

    Hell yes. In fact I'd probably pay for the experience 🤣

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago

    Take it. No question. Trades every other insecurity for just one somewhat predictable event.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Random part sounds like the monkey's paw part to me. Random spot on the surface, not bad. Random part including underwater? Sure, you can hold your breath, but there could be a large pressure differential. Your ears word also suffer. I don't think that's long enough to risk the bends etc but there's a lot more depth than there is surface.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    as long as i spawn on the surface then it's fine.

    if the locations are random, chances are it'll be in the middle of the ocean/sea, far away from any dangerous cliffs.

    and as I get the money upfront, if I die, my loved ones will get it, so it isn't that bad

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I think it's implied that the money goes away if you don't fulfill the 5 years "owed". Either that or your dead body spends a lot of time at sea.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    more importantly is what court enforces those contacts so you can consult a lawyer

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    If you're a muslim then Suleiman or his modern equivalent (King Charles?) and Allah, if you're not even abrahamic then genies and demons are local deities with a society of their own which still adhere to the laws laid down by heaven (in this case Caananite High God El).

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    lol. imagine going to king Charles for a dispute you have with your Ginnie

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    30 seconds a day for only 5 years... That's 912.5 minutes, or just over 15 hours. Less than a typical work week to tread water for a few seconds.

    Can I bring a camera?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (7 children)

    What about the sharks though? Sounds like there is a chance you might land somewhere you're eaten.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Sharks would be wary of such large and unfamiliar prey appearing so suddenly. Unless you're bleeding, they will probably only circle you for the 30 seconds, prefering you tired out instead of able to defend yourself.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    What about landing in a group of man o'wars?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_man_o%27_war#Venom

    I'd say it's statistically unlikely you'd run into them, given just how much water there is on earth. And even if you did, you're going to have 30 seconds of a bad time. Sure, according to the article you could have 3 hours of pain. So a warm bubble bath treatment. Death is only found in extreme cases.

    I've been in 2 car accidents coming from or going to work... and I can tell you I'm never going to earn anywhere close to $100,000,000. Work has demanded I drive through dangerous blizzard conditions many times because the business doesn't stop even though it's not safe to travel.

    I'll absolutely risk maybe seeing a man o'war. Because on paper, it appears to be less dangerous (since I'll be teleported away from it 30 seconds after) than any 9-5 job.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    So next problem then, what if you're dropped into a rough storm. The sort that can make oil tankers rock. Fair chance you would drown in that.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's 30 seconds. Bad storm, I can hold my breath and hope for the best, for 30 seconds. An oil tanker is large so the waves and wind have more to push on, and it's staying there longer than 30 seconds. That's the part you keep missing, you're there for only 30 seconds. There's tons of ships that go threw storms just fine. Also you get 50 skip days, so if you know there's a bad tropical storm somewhere and you don't want to risk it, just skip it. But even if there's a hurricane going over Florida, statistically you're just going to end up in the Pacific ocean somewhere since that's the largest body of water. The pacific is ~30% of the earths surface. It's got more surface area than Mars.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I have understood the 30 seconds part fine. I am looking at it from the point of view that you're transported instantly and so could be taken by surprise when it occurs, you only need to have a wave crash on you, take in a mouthful of water and you would be in real trouble if get spun out.

    There is rough weather out at sea in some part of the world most weeks, given you don't know where you could be put on the globe then you would have to know you're going to be dropped into a location with a storm to know to use your skip day otherwise you would be chewing through them pretty quickly.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    There's less than 100 shark attacks a year, world wide. In any given year there's 10's of thousands of deaths by car accidents just in the US. So, I'd say it's probably safer 30 seconds in some water with sharks, than 30 seconds on any given highway with people.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago

    So you're absolutely going to be killed after you are teleported into a statistically likely depth that has enormous water pressure.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, do you get paid immediately? Or do you get paid when your ocean tour concludes on the 1825th day?

    Because it would be tedious as fuck to have to still work every day during that time while enduring daily ocean trauma (and potentially have an unrelated accident and subsequently invalidate all my effort up to that point).

    Also, like some other people mentioned: is it a random part of the ocean in a survivable area? I imagine this would strictly mean the surface of the ocean wherever you end up. Certain depths would be instant death and I don’t know how the physics work with teleporting from deep ocean back to the surface, but I assume it’s the perfect recipe for spontaneously contracting the bends

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Putting aside the pressure crushing bit for a moment, the bends wouldn't really be a problem. Freedivers can go pretty deep for several minutes and ascend without issue, because they aren't breathing in and out and doing all the gas exchange at depth that eventually pushes more nitrogen into your blood.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    1825

    minus up to 50 skip days. could be as few as 1775 days.

    fewer if doing multiple a day... it didn't strictly exclude that possibility, especially since it said you get to choose the time of day... could try cheesing it, getting it done sooner...

    survivable

    Given the part about the suit if freezing, it seems so.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    Sure! Set it for first thing in the morning. It'll wake me up better than any alarm and I can wash off the sea water and start my day!

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Sounds like a good alarm clock.

    Can I choose a different time on weekends and holidays?

    Does it take daylight savings into account?

    It says I come back dry... does it clean me too? Can it replace a shower, is what I'm getting at..?

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    The ocean is BIG. Chance of something big enough to be interested in you discovering you and deciding to eat you in 30 seconds is minuscule.

    Sharks aren't mindless chomping machines.

    Cthulhu might be problematic, though.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Isn't the vast majority of the open ocean effectively lifeless? 9/10 times you'd probably not even be within a mile of anything bigger than plankton.

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    People who set challenges like this just don't understand money. $100,000,000 will buy you and everyone in your family a house, a car, food, drink, hobbies, holidays, almost anything you could conceivably want for the rest of your life. And that's even if you blow it all and don't even bother investing. It's an insane amount of money. 30 seconds for five years is 15 hours. That's a pay rate of $6,600,000 an hour. Just to be in the sea.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    it doesn’t say what part of the sea, just random… so you’ll almost certainly be crushed to death in the first week, considering that most of the ocean is too deep for you to survive 30 seconds.

    if it was always floating on the top that would be a good deal… i can hold my breath for 30 seconds so even a storm probably wouldn’t kill me.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Also most of the ocean isn't teeming with predatory animals.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Vast majority of sea life lives near coastlines - because that is precisely where current disruptions create easily accessible nutrients.

    Out in the middle of the ocean there is really very little. Migratory animals moving between destinations mostly.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Also even 30 seconds gives you a fair bit of time even around predatory animals. Seems relatively safe bet for anyone without my luck. There's a reason I never gamble.

    Even with predatory animals may take them 20 seconds to figure out what's happening....you got cash to burn.

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    [–] 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Sounds kind of easy with the thermal suit involved

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Even without it, you can survive 30 seconds in the biting cold easily.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly seeing a new part of the sea every day could be fun.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago*

    I finally participated in weekly (more or less) winter bathing last year, and even if I stopped, it still was an interesting experience. And I wasn't even paid.
    The coldest was 2.5C water and -8C air, and it was painful. Anything over 6 is more or less manageable. And you get a "ohhh, the water is goood" perk for the summer. I mean, for days when water is not actually good, but you've had worse so you enjoy it:)

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Random part of the ocean, including crushing depth? This needs some clarification.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It'll be a routine like a gym that you will start to miss it once the 5 year is up (the thermal suit and auto drying are crazy good boons to make this way less unpleasant than it could be).

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    I can tread water for over 30 minutes, 30 seconds is nothing. Even if there is a storm, just hold your breath for 30s. Sure, unpleasant. Worth it.

    Assuming it's always at the surface of course. Deep sea pressure would be a death sentence.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah i read the whole thing thinking about the pressure. It only mentions a thermal suit for when its cold, but isnt it rather likely that the random spot you get telepoorted to is just too deep?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's gotta be a safe part (pressure and temperature wise) because they're letting you have sick days and they're giving you the thermal suit. This challenge is about surviving life in the sea, not uninhabitable environments imo

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    So can you tread water/hold your breath for 30 seconds. Yes, very easily. Honestly I would even take it without the thermal suit if I can have a little time to practice dealing with the cold shock response in colder water. The part of the UK I live in doesn't get much below 10°c which is the coldest water I have gone into without any protection.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Is it always at the surface of the ocean? Not at the bottom where the pressure will kill me, or unexpectedly submerged so I breathe water and die? Then yes, yes, yes. I will take those odds and consider it a very reasonable retirement plan, and an incredible hourly wage.

    ETA I would think the biggest risk is data loss from so many teleportations. The sea is so big and empty that if it's literally random the odds of appearing inside the wall of a ship or in the mouth of a shark does seem less likely than being mowed down by a car on my way to work (same 30 minutes a day total riding back and forth) for a much bigger payout.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Into a random part of the ocean, you say?

    Does into include the bottom of the Mariana Trench, perhaps?

    If so... my answer is nope.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    The critical thing is that you get to choose the time. So you simply schedule it for just before you get in the shower every day.

    Close your eyes and hold your breath, quick 30 seconds plunge, return to find yourself in the shower so everything gets washed away. There are people with too much money, who'd pay for that kind of thing. Much of the ocean is completely empty anyway.

    Or (and this is a bit dark) you donate 49.5 million to charity, take the 50 skip days immediately, have a very nice holiday with the 500k, then kill yourself on day 51 safe in the knowledge you've left a lasting legacy and done more to help others than most could ever hope to. Probably be able to cram a better life in those 50 days than many will be able to fit in 50 years too.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    random part of the ocean

    At 2000 meter depth...

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