The job offer would read "Let us use your voice to train an AI to replace you, and if you say no, we'll hire someone else who will." Most actors are highly replaceable, so they have very little bargaining power. This is why actors have unions and why they've been fighting AI hard.

Stealing might be a strong word, I agree. But because of this policy, Embark won't need another recording session out of these actors. Designing the project to never pay the actors that could have worked with them again.

To back this term ("stealing"). I consider that the genAI technology as a whole has been built on the stolen work of the whole world. ChatGPT has been built upon thousands of Github projects without their consent, I suppose Sora, DALL-E, Stable Diffusion, etc have been made in the same way. Training data has been stolen.

Even though it's a bit far-stretched, using this kind of technology to remove any future human collaboration is stealing to me.

• Stealing (copying) their voice (in the Little Mermaid way)
• Stealing their money (make profit with their unique trait in the future)
• Stealing the work of thousand if not million of people around the world through the genAI technology

If SAG hadn't gone on strike, Netflix would also have been making agreements with actors to use their voice and likeness without actually offering future work too. Was SAG wrong to push against this?

Just because someone makes a deal doesn't mean it isn't a toxic business practice that's bad for the industry or the people involved in it. People also agree to work for subpar wages, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't push for higher minimum wages.

Because desperate voice actors famously have so much leverage in contract negotiations, right? Why do you think Hollywood actors and writers unions went on strike in 2023?

While i think it sucks, and the only reason they take this weird approach is that the embark guy is a turbo AI bro. What i don't understand why they even bother, since arc raiders has only like 10 voice lines

I agree, this game has an awesome tech team making a clear counter-argument to UE5 haters (I hate UE5, they used very well imho). The graphism are cool and the art is really a work of art! I love the world design, lore, color grading, design-language, weapon design, etc.

The voice acting got through what I consider my keen 6th sense of AI-detection (which scares me tbh). But this is something that I cannot let go, I don’t want to. Even though everything else is (for a multiplayer game) top-notch imo.

What’s the boundary if we let them do this to one aspect of the game then? What amount of AI slop are we going to accept in the future if we allow corporations to AI-creep into everything?

I want to vote with my wallet and with my voice to support what I think isn’t the right direction.

Even though the voice actors signed the contract: I, as a customer/fan, don’t want workers signing off their ability to work more. These voice actors won’t ever work again with Embark now, Embark don’t need another recording session from them. Ok, actors waved that opportunity away willingly. But I don’t want the whole industry to become like this.

It’s not because the genAI trend isn’t going away that we aren’t allowed to adapt to it. My adaptation is to fight for an AI-free label.

PS: On another front, Embark has made millions, if not more on this game. Don’t tell me they HAD to use genAI instead of paying those voice actors for reshoot to begin with.

I love the dev behind ARC Raiders. I hate the management team that forced AI into the project (I can't prove this claim, call that a hunch)

Yep. I wish others were brave enough to actually make a change. Accounts are purely there to steal data and further enrich thieves.

Oh it's one of those? Same reason I returned red dead redemption 2.

I don’t think it’s that big of deal, doesn’t it just link the account to your steam/psn/xbox live? I don’t even remember making a password for the account. It’s not like you also have to log in to another worthless launcher like blizzard/ubisoft/ea games on steam. That’s where I draw the line.

No! Not having to create an account that keeps your account available cross platform!