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[–] 63 points 11 months ago

It deserves all the praise it has received. What an incredible game.

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  • [–] 89 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I did myself the disservice of watching a synopsis of the game to see what the hype is all about. All spoilers known.

    Holy shit am I going to buy the hell out of this game anyway.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    It does have a lot of replay value because the gameplay loop is tight, and the foreshadowing work is so outstandingly tight that every in-game conversation has a second layer of meaning once you know the story twists.

    Also they added a photo mode and I kinda wanna do a NG+ just for that.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Honestly, I think knowing might help get through chapter 1. You know something's up almost immediately, but they drag the mystery out way too long for my patience, where I felt like I was being fucked around with and having my time wasted. I would have dropped it if not for my partner insisting I'd like it, and the rest of the story did end up being worth it.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    It meets the hype. Fully.

    Absolute. Cinema!

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Macron always has a knack to try to use things popular with younger people to score political gains. Infamously with the ZEvent, for instance.

    It is now traditional for them to answer with "Shut your mouth Macron, this isn't about you".

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Well, with old and elderly people you get Trump, Putin and Netanyahu; so I am fine with broadly politicians to catch younger generations.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Compared to dictators (or wannabe), I get that Macron seems attractive. But he's proven to be pro-rich (taxes on the rich have been drastically cut under Macron) and anti-democratic (he's ignored the result of the last election and nominated a plethora of prime ministers from parties who lost).

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 10 months ago

    I am not that much interested in Macron (or any other) political career; I just get the signaling when a bad politician want it easy (to screw people) and go for elderly people instead to put some effort to convince the future generations.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (19 children)

    I do have a question playing this game: how many decided to play with French language and subs? Somehow it feels that is the way intended with this game

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Nope, even tho the game is french, the original is English and French is a dub. They even splurged for well known/good english voice actors. But french dub is also good, so you can go for it if you want. Try both for a few minutes and decide which one you want, I guess?

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I'm French and I actually played it in English... Mostly for Jennifer English

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    in English... Mostly for Jennifer English

    They should get Dawn French to do the French dub

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Is Dawn really the Frenchest name you could think of?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Akshully both are dubs, but the script and mocap sessions were done in English. On top of that the French dub was outsourced and the game director and lead writer weren't in the studio like for the English dub, and it shows IMO. Some French lines clearly don't have the same level of direction as the "canonical" dub.

    However I will say it's still a better dub than most French dubs. I'd argue the bar is on the floor but the francophone dubbing lobby would draw and quarter me for holding such heretic opinions.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I've had very little luck with playing games in French lately, recent dubs I've tried all sound like poorly acted téléfilms imo...
    That's a shame, because both Plague Tale games, as well as E33 might (could) sound much better in French, but I can't get past the way VA is done when compared to their English counterpart.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    The English VA is really good and if you don't speak French you will miss some characterizing lines. Combat barks and such aren't subtitled, and neither is what little passive chatter between NPCs there is.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    English Esquie is one of the most delightful things I've ever had the joy of experiencing. He's voiced by the same person in both, but in French he just sounds French. In English he gets to have a French accent. Every character with a French accent is at odds with the main cast in a way that's very flavorful. It just makes all the Frenchness really pop, like mixing sweet and salty.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I've been told the French is rather mediocre compared to the English.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I'm french, and I found it really good. But it's only my humble opinion ^^. All my french friends played it in french, and none of them found it bad to my knowledge.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children)

    It's only because we're used to shit dub, it's extremely rare to have a legit good dub (there's a whole legit institutional problem there). If you can't keep up with English dub, it's good enough, but you're still missing out a lot with Serkis, Cox, English that the French version can't match. No one's winning any award.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    For me it's not about winning an award but immersion. Hell, french dub is a so small market compared to english that it could explain why it's not even taken into account for awards.

    But on the music side, know that Expedition 33 has different ending musics in french and english, and even though I listen to a lot of english songs, the french one is so far better ("Aux lendemains non écrits"). The singer is simply more fluid in french than she is in english, or, I don't know, but I simply can't stand the english one compared to it. The meaning communicated through the words is not the same either.

    Anyway, the important thing is that each of us finds ourselves satisfied with what they did :)

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Played in French. Wish that was the original version. Especially since my understanding is the performance capture was done by a French cast and the English cast that is getting all the press and accolades did the voice work exclusively.

    I would have preferred if the voice and facial animation was targeted to the French language. I don't know why European games are so afraid of not being in English. If Persona can do it so can E33. Or maybe not? Certainly the cast was a selling point, so what do I know.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I switched to french with English subtitles.... Because Mielle sounded like Shadowheart. It was fine for most stuff, but all of the jump/dodge/hit sounds, it sounded just like her.

    Disadvantages of common voice actors....

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I still cannot get into the mood to finish it. I just got the bouncy giant and moody boy #2, but I'm too zapped to continue. It needs to become an animated series like Arcane

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    Shut your mouth Macron, this isn't about you

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    French president holding to shred of relevancy and noteworthiness tries to coopt national success he had nothing to do with. Now to our main story tonight, is the weather getting colder?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago

    Well, in UK the queen was used to make lords people that had great merit for the nation: Sir Sinclair for the quite popular zx spectrum and Sir Terry Prachett for amazing narrative, on turtle, universe he crafted.

    I don't remember there was any requirements on political side (queen or parliament) to acknowledge people's merit to the nation.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    So... hold on, is it "a historic first"? I guess the TGAs haven't been around that long. There have definitely been major GOTY awards for French games before, though.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I loved the fight mechanics and I'm sure there was a good story in there if I cared but one thing that really grinded my gears was the goddamn cutscenes. Not only that but the incessant cut scene that leads into another cut scene that leads into another cut scene. Seriously I spent half the game skipping cut scenes.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Could be worse, could be a marathon run of the Metal Gear series with a ban on skipping cutscenes. Also the fuck did you expect from an aggressively French JRPG style game, FFS JRPGs are defined by their cutscenes.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    When I develop my game I'm going to prevent players from skipping cutscenes on first viewing.

    Gods, some people are just undeserving...

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't play JRPGS and never played metal gear. I played Clair because I heard of the sekiro type mechanics and was interested.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    What Sekiro type mechanics? It basically has nothing outside of the timed combat mechanics which are far from unique amongst various games, hell I'm pretty sure Jedi Academy which has combat mechanics closer to Daggerfall or Mount and Blade had a timed party mechanic though I could never figure it out.

    Do yourself a favor and look at the tags for a game before playing it. Looking at the steam page it has both story rich and JRPG as tags, this is basically tag speech for long fucking cutscenes.

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Probably full of propaganda. Why would any president care?

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Wtf? Lol

    Outside of America many countries have a strong sense of pride especially when something is overtly representing them and their culture.

    As a Canadian if they made this game with hockey and toques I'd damn well expect the prime minister to applaud them when they won game of the year too.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I'm assuming you're 14, so I'll explain in simple terms: the game is a success, the game is French, the president of France is celebrating that the game of the year is French. In the process, he is trying to make himself look good.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Now want to try it less Macron has horrible judgement no reason to assume his gaming judgement is different.

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  • [+] -19 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Even more of a reason for me to never want to play it

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine not playing a videogame because some guy in France likes it and he also (and I'm only guessing here, but this is lemmy) supports Israel

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I just don‘t like the game because it has turn based combat. Like it‘s an RPG but you can‘t demolish foes with reaction skills. Where‘s the fun in that?

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You actually can smoke foes with parries and reactive skills.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago

    That‘s atleast something. I just saw some screenshots and didn‘t like how it looked.

    To me, combat needs to have positioning and creative interaction with terrain to be fun, which is why I love FromSoft games and soulslikes in general.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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    I watched gameplay and it looked boring af. Miitopia for the 3DS had better turn based combat than this.

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  • [+] -23 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I need a distinction between VIDEO games (interactable videos with fail cases so it's a game in the end but barely) and video GAMES (games you can see and not imagine, like basketball: no story, no progression, just rule based win/lose thing)

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (7 children)
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    So as a customer my selection process is shorter. The label "Video game" is getting too big that it's becoming useless. Imagine all the citrus fruits were called citrus fruits. I mean yeah but I wanna know if I'm buying an orange or a lemon, I like both but not in the same situation.

    edit: I couldn't stop thinking about the fruits: Citrus with sugar elements, Aroma driven Citrus

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I get what you mean and that's what genres are for, maybe you want action, maybe you want story, but they are all critrus fruits video games

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Genres don't tell me how much of a game is cutscenes and how much of the game is controlled by inputs. I guess you can argue for more labels but then we'll have labels too long that they need abbrevations (extra cognitive load for the reader) so why not a new word (the same congitive load)?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    The genre for anything with a heavy cutscene amount is typically "Story rich". Doesn't tell you the ratio between cutscenes and action, but that's messy to measure anyways.

    If you wanna get pedantic and actually measure that ratio, you could start with a new kind of genre with something like 60S40A for 60% story 40% action and see if there'd be enough people who care enough to use the same labelling.

    Otherwise, read some reviews?

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