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[–] 35 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I've never seen A Muppet Christmas Carol, but just looking at these pictures has caused me to start weeping uncontrollably.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's considered one of the better adaptations. Gonzo plays Charles Dickens, as Dickens historically made a fair bit of money in his later years narrating his stories in person. Michael Caine plays Scrooge. It's excellent. Kermit and Piggy are Bob and Emily Crathit.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Michael Caine put more love and care into playing the role straight than I would have expected.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Agreed. He treated the muppets as fellow actors and it created a wonderful energy that still shines through all these years later.

    There’s a few Scrooge movies I like to catch each year: Muppet Christmas Carol, Scrooged, and Spirited has joined the ranks recently. There’s one particular scene in that last one that absolutely horrifies me in the best way. They modernized a lot of it and made it more accessible to people who might otherwise see these concerns as outdated.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    We watch it every Christmas Eve, it's great.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    We've watched Scrooged (NSFW) at Christmastime for the last few years.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Seems to me like that bunny should GET A JOBBBBBB

    Also i really want the government to be run by unregistered sex offenders. Every night I pray that God will let my guy get away with it.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    This reminds of the line from the Charles Dickens book. I'm pretty sure the Muppets Christmas Carol was actually one of the carol versions that took many of its lines from the book and followed it very accurately.

    Anyway, the line is scrooge responding to the insufficient state of the poor houses and that some people would rather die than live in them. He says:

    If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population

    It's interesting how even in Dickens times this idea of the problem being "too many people" was used as an excuse for poverty and inequality by the capitalist and bankers. Seeing as it's still being done today. And many people still fall for this lie.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    One of my favorite lit analysis videos is about this! The ghost's reply to him on this is so fucking based

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Oh, did the ghosts bring up his quote, right? The Ghost of Christmas Present if I remember. It hit so hard coming from the marry and happy ghost just dropping that line at the most painful time. The Muppets version literally did Dickens book justice. It's literally my favorite adaptation of it.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    Watched this tonight and yeah that was heartbreaking.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    We had a thing at work where we were being trained to handle payments. As part of the class, we had to run through United Ways poverty simulator and talk about the experience. The idea was to reinforce empathy or something before unleashing us on the payment lines.

    One of the girls gets on mic and says she doesn’t understand what all the fuss is about. She never has to worry about money or poor people because “god provides for me.” And she laughed about it.

    This was following the rest of sharing our own hardships we’ve been through and the troubles we’ve heard from other callers on the phones.

    Fucking psychopath.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    So sickening and what a lot of people think right now. Wealth is gods reward. The poors are just not Christian enough. It's all part of gods plan.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (6 children)

    I call it neo liberal calvinism. Really pisses them off. (Mainly coz i think they dont know what it means.)

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Whatever it is it’s not Christianity. Christianity has plenty of faults but this is a whole new horror of its own. They kept the branding and swapped out literally everything else. It’s just putting a cross of Republican politics and pretending it’s a religion now.

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  • [+] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The prosperity gospel is not Christianity any more than a McDonald’s burger is actually a cow.

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  • [+] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Bean bunny deserves better. Wildly underrated muppet.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    I bet that you think you might, but id wager you'd be wrong.

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  • [+] -9 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    LOL

    The minimum wage has been 7 bucks for almost 20 years, across multiple Democratic and Republican administrations, but sure, one party is totally anti-poverty.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    The votes to raise the minimum wage that have reached the floor since then have been split on party lines, and the Republicans are the ones voting against.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    So, what you're saying is, when Democrats have power there isn't a vote at all.

    Funny coincidence, that.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    In the time period that you are talking about the Dems controlled the house, Senate, and Whitehouse for something like 3-4 months. They were busy with the ACA during that time period. They should have raised the minimum wage then, but I don't think they realized they would keep losing the house and Senate for the next 15 years

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Dems controlled the house, Senate, and Whitehouse for something like 3-4 months.

    So it's perfectly reasonable to expect that they do something. Yes.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (8 children)
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    You're right.

    Expecting Democrats to actually do what they say when they have the power to do so is a dream.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Ya huh. Repubs have all the power now and they're still doing shit illegally or by executive order because governmental obstruction is such an issue. Ie. You live in a Dreamworld.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    Oh they suck too, don't get me wrong.

    But I'm not sure how you can look at the last ten months of Donald's presidency and honestly conclude that Democrats were powerless to do good these last 20 years.

    It's unreasonable.

    Democrats lied to us and got rich selling us out to their golf buddies. That's it.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    You're on a first name basis with a pedophile, neat.

    I can conclude that the government is complex but I don't think outright breaking the law is particularly helpful or at all a reason to say he's doing well.

    Trump golfs literally every week with billionaires he put in government and takes bribes from. Are you simply ok with that because they're not hiding it?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    You’re on a first name basis with a pedophile, neat.

    Incorrect. I call him Donald out of sheer disrespect and hatred of his branding.

    I can conclude that the government is complex

    That is one of the best thought-terminating cliches I've heard yet to pretend Democrats are magically powerless.

    Trump golfs literally every week with billionaires he put in government and takes bribes from.

    Profile literally says I hate both Democrats and Republicans Maybe don't be this lazy.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    So you're on a first name basis with a pedophile, justify it how you'd like.

    It's not a cliche it's an actual fact the repubs have been finding out this whole term when they fuck something up and have to redo it then fuck that up and get told they can't even try again. A thought terminating cliche would be suggesting an actual fact it's a simple cliche like I dunno just now for instance.

    Yeah the "I don't agree with either but I'm actively defending one side" shit is also a cliche. Stand for nothing, fall for everything and such.

    Ed: also no one is going to read your profile, who the fuck does that anyway?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Bummer that we can't get you as angry about genocide as you are about rightful critiques of your pet politicians' voting record and governance on the Internet.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I totally get when people say both parties are bad and don't vote at all or vote third parties. I live in a multi party system so the whole concept is foreign to me. But the meme isn't pro Democrats but against Republicans. Sure, voting Dems won't save the US, change always comes through pressure from below, from the street. But voting for Rep*blicans is just Evil at this point.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Voting for either is evil.

    Just two different flavors of it. Hell, Biden was helping Israel genocide a whole ethnic group and systemically starve them. Not exactly feel-good stuff from the leader of the Democratic Party.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Democrats largely are for the status quo and maybe adding a few more popular progressive ideas that don't rock the boat or affect their benefactors. It seems like Israel is in a place that is too convenient to keep the current geopolitical status quo.

    Unfortunately, we also have a voting system on the federal level that promotes two parties and both are really just tools used against the proletariat to keep everyone just preoccupied enough to keep from mass rioting.

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