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Poilievre in Political 'Death Spiral' After Another Floor Crossing: Political Scientist (www.youtube.com)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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[–] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So... good news :)

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    • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    I hope the other people he mentioned who are also fed up with being a pure obstructionist government break off and form an actually progressive Conservative Party, and PP can fuck off and run the PPC with Bernier.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    If enough conservatives cross the floor, maybe Canadians will recognize the Liberal party as the progressive conservative party it is and let the NDP own the left.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Traditionally, Canadians have been socially liberal and fiscally conservative and fairly “centrist” overall. That has mostly described the Liberals with the Conservatives mostly coming in to power after periods where the Liberals have been less fiscally conservative.

    The NDP struggles to create a national mandate as they are perceived as too fiscally left (what gets the Liberals in trouble). The Conservatives are sometimes seen as too socially right, opening the door for the Liberals.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Carney's managed to get PP whine about him discussing Alberta's oil pipe dreams of all things... Canadians are catching on that Pierre will not be happy even if Conservatives get stuff they have presently or previously campaigned for.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    PP can fuck off and run the PPC with Bernier.

    Neither will settle for being second banana to the other. They would fight for control and further weaken the already irrelevant PPC.

    Which is absolutely fine with me. The party of misfit politicians needs to remain irrelevant.

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    • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I'm happy that Polievre may get the comeuppance he so richly deserves, and the CPC may sink further into irrelevance. But there's a bigger point here: the LPC is now openly the real conservative party--it has been for a very long time, but they succeeded to some degree in making people believe they were "progressive"--and further, thanks to these desertions they are now very close to having a majority of seats. (I hope the people who voted for the floor crossers have learned their lesson). If the Liberals do get a majority, they should do the decent thing and call an election, because nobody voted for this.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    If you do not mind me asking…

    If you want the CPC to “sink further into irrelevance”, what do you expect from another election?

    CPC in charge - it sounds like you do not want that

    Liberals in charge -“nobody voted for this”? Sound like you do not want that either.

    So, am I to understand that you think an election would put the NDP in charge? That seems very unlikely.

    What outcome are we hoping a new election will deliver?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago

    Liberals do get a majority, they should do the decent thing and call an election, because nobody voted for this.

    It’s in the interests of the elites to have phoney majority governments. This is why they staunchly oppose proportional representation.

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