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[–] 83 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.

I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.

There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Your own domain, but you're safer not hosting your own email servers in general. Just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this. If your mail server is down you don't get mail 🫠

    I ended up using a service that isn't Google for that with my own domain

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Your own domain for email hosting is a massive pain in the ass. Have you not run into a million problems with other hosting providers refusing you for possibly spam?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Self hosting an email server is a pain in the ass and I don't really recommend it.

    Buying your own domain and using it in whatever email provider you want is very easy and gives you ownership over the email address. You may switch providers freely without needing anyone else to do anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I wasn’t self hosting. I was just talking about your own domain, which caused me serious problems when flagged for spam.

    Edit: I’m guessing it’s easier nowadays but I still carry that pain lol

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    That’s not an issue with a custom domain name, but one of the other parts you run into, SPF and DKIM dns settings being correct and the reputation of whatever SMTP server’s ip address is. No one spam-bins based just on random domain names, or every business would freak out. You can also use your own domain on Google, Microsoft, or Apples ecosystems, not that you need to, there are plenty of providers that will host your email. I like runbox.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh shit is that what the issue was??? Thank you for explaining! I thought it was literally blacklisted like that. I told those worthless dumbfucks to whitelist my domain and that shit just kept happening—and they made me do all the work every time. It was exhausting and frustrating. I’ll look into runbox, thanks again.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I wonder if there might be some super common spam tlds like .xyz or .ru or something, but generally, yeah, custom domain isn’t the issue. Some other options are Migadu, mailbox.org, mxroute, and Tuta all seem like decent companies. A lot of others “also do” email hosting, like porkbun and OVH. Plenty of companies host their email with all these companies and have mostly clear sailing without being spam binned.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, not I don’t self host my email which is where a lot of the trouble comes from

    I don’t remember having any issues with it ever. That was a concern so I did slowly transition to the custom domain

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    My own domain?!? Any suggestions??

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.

    Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Gotta also recommended porkbun for a registrar, had a great experience with then.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    set up your own domain for email hosting

    cannot recommend this enough!

    1. register your domain through something like porkbun
    2. get an account with someone like mxroute.com (i am a fan, but not an affiliate or anything)
    3. enjoy pain-free email for the rest of your life
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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was incredibly easy to do and a refurbished pixel 8 is way cheaper than a new phone.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    They are also way too small in terms of storage given that they don’t support external cards (Apple is similar). Google/Apple definitely want buyers to also buy their subscription storage services or pay the high premium for the next storage level.

    I’m on an XR right now and it feels older, but still very much usable. I wish companies offered options to only get security patches instead of having to buy new phones every few years, that’s the 1 thing I hope Google keeps around and doesn’t walk back in the future.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    what's stopping you? was the very first thing I did, don't regret it for a second -- https://ocv.me/b/img/IMG_20230811_121845_049.1ssy.jpg "i'm about to finish setting up my pixel alright" :p

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The cost of buying a pixel is the only thing stopping me. I don't have enough to replace my aging phone with much of anything, let alone a pixel.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You can save quite a bit by getting a refurbished Pixel - looks like the cheapest "Google certified" option (so it comes with a 1-year warranty) is a 6a for $250, which is nearly half off MSRP. I've been using my 6a since launch, so it's been going for 3 years now and I have no desire to upgrade.

    You can definitely get cheaper smartphones, but $250 for a 6a feels like a pretty big bang for your buck.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I used Swappa to buy my last phone. Not certified, but much cheaper. The condition of phones is "graded," and the sellers have an incentive to keep their reputation on the platform high. I had good luck, the one time I used it, at least.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I got a pixel 9 for $240 CAD via carrier promotion in Canada.

    I held out getting a new phone as long as I could and they offered a new pixel 9 for $5 per month for 24 months

    Not to trade in after 24.

    It's mine. For 5$ a month.

    When I received it I didn't turn it on for a week.

    Read as much as I could to decide that Google would only ever see the single boot to enable developer mode and enable OEM unlock to flash graphenos.

    It seemed intimidating, but the process to install is very smooth.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    in that case I would feel comfortable going with a refurb like theloweststone mentioned; pixels are the only(?) android devices which let you swap out the bootloader in a safe manner, so even a phone that's been in shady hands should be fine if the boot hash matches. And if you know another person with graphene you can do the attestation just to be certain.

    but since the future of GrapheneOS is slightly shaky at the moment, I've looking at alternatives for when my current device inevitably bites the dust -- fairphone and pinephone both look like decent choices at first glance. It's an unfortunate situation but just gotta roll with it!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Move to Lineage OS or Calyx OS

    Don't be fooled by the Graphene OS Mafia

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What do the other two do better?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Lineage OS is a fairly generic ROM based on AOSP so it supports the most devices

    Calyx OS is a privacy focused ROM without all the Graphene OS BS. The Graphene OS team and community are quite toxic and have a "my way or the highway" mentality. They don't support MicroG and focus more on security than privacy and freedom.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    @possiblylinux127 @Tattorack See also this table: discuss.techlore.tech/t/comparA bit outdated since Divest is gone (😢), but a core difference is that Graphene prefers proprietary google stuff that is sandboxed and not given any privileges, while Calyx prefers free software versions that might have other issues (eg incomplete, or unsigned coming from third-party sources).

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    Dude's having an interesting life trajectory

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I think it's ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ditch Google

    Step 1: Send them money

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Same reason it continually sucks to get a working Linux build on an apple laptop or desktop.

    As bad as Google is, they're lightyears ahead of Apple in terms of protecting their products in a walled garden.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Really? What's your favorite custom ROM for modern iPhones?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I've never investigated for iPhones but would be curious

    1. if they exist
    2. how bloody hard they are to get going

    I can only speak for laptops/desktops and it being a bitch.

    There's a reason I'm very adamant at hating Apple for a multitude of technical reasons. This is but one of them. It's a shame too because their build quality is really S-Tier.

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  • [–] 159 points 1 year ago (26 children)

    I'm loving Pewdie's redemption arc

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That's going to be one long arc though

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is it though? I never paid any attention to him, so I only know that one time he made some kids make a sign with heil Hitler or something like that (which from what I've read was just a joke in bad taste, he isn't a nazi or major racist). Otherwise, I haven't heard anything bad about him, he was just never someone I cared to know more about and watch, seemed to be mostly for kids. Please, correct anything I've said if I'm wrong.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    He has had some serious run ins with controversy like the bridge incident and a shooter co-opting the T-Series fake beef but beyond that it's basically people reacting seriously to him aping Filthy Frank, in my opinion I think he's made good enough on not shooting himself in the foot now, mostly probably cuz he's a Dad now and trying to ape Filthy Frank is too much effort.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    started with minecraft & redstone, now linux & degoogling, can we extrapolate that in some years pewd's gonna start hrt lol

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    has he stopped "accidentally" naziing?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He got backlash from his own fans from all edgy and toxic jokes. I remember some of his Indian fans are angry for his PewDiePie vs T-series stuff (T-series: Indian music company).

    I think around 2019, he apologized and recognized all the edginess he did, and promised to do better.

    For the last five years, all of his content are basically wholesome family stuff or creative activities. Even his recent art journey video are widely shared among young art communities that's not even his fans.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I really don't get how so many people here are so happy that a Nazi is using Linux and doesn't like Google anymore. That's not the kind of clown I'd want representing or being a spokesperson for my interests and it's really making me second guess the people here.

    Edit: @nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 's comment has provided info I didn't have, and recontextualizes the attitudes here I wasn't understanding, so now I get why there's support for this.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    Might wanna take your own advice. For example, instead of making a drive by shit post, you could have done what another commenter did and actually explain why people are on board with this guy. That person's comment had me reconsider my position. Your comment just makes you look like an ass.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Yeah this is why it's so offputting seeing so much praise for him here. I don't believe he's ever outright apologized and owned up to what he's said and done in the past (I could be wrong though?). Last I checked the dude was literally a neo nazi.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My wife was a PewDiePie fan from before the slur incident so I've loosely seen some of his content over the years. He's apologized multiple times, and he's shifted his style significantly multiple times since then.

    Basically in the last few years he's grown up a ton. He married his girlfriend of a decade or more after earlier refusing marriage, had a baby, emigrated to Japan and now posts tons of creative and day-in-the-life style vlogs

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Didn't he stream a dead body in a Japanese suicide forest shortly after moving to Japan?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That was Logan Paul, and actually the Paul brothers' antics actually greatly delayed Pewd's immigration as the Japanese government actually stopped granting new visas to any social media personalitiws for some time after the Paul incidents.

    If I remember correctly he wasn't able to immigrate until mid-2020 thanks to the Paul Borthers' lack of respect for anyone

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's no redemption arc because he literally never did anything wrong. His content was always family friendly

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I’m sceptical of his steamdeck hosting solution :p hope he has backup for his files too

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago*

    The peertube mascot looking over gothenburg

    One million hours in gimp

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It will stay up. Do you know how many YouTube videos there are badmouthing Google? They don't care so long as you're watching them.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    All I know is they took down the ones by LTT and Jeff Geerling, I can only assume it was due to the larger audience those two attracted. Now imagine PewDiePie...

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don’t care about his content, but I downloaded for historical preservation. If you’re willing to watch can you explain the beef?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just use down sub to pull the transcript from his video It's only 60% as annoying.

    He has the normal privacy versus cost worries which are reasonably valid. Then he rambles on, plugs a product that he's shilling that's unrelated to the subject matter, says he's replacing Google search with a local LLM, does some hot takes on alternatives, does some reasonable takes on some alternatives.

    To be honest, this is probably the least helpful de-googling video I've seen, other than the fact that he's a major influencer and is telling everyone they should be doing it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    this is probably the least helpful de-googling video

    I don't think it was supposed to be particularly helpful. It's more of him sharing his passion with his audience. Which isn't going to be interesting if you don't care about him.

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